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Eyaliss

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Hi All, I've quit lurking because I need a little help deciding what my first ever hatchling is. Mom is a RAPTOR Eclipse and Dad is SHT. I was pretty sure that she may be a Jungle, but the tail is throwing me off. She's shed already and the black turned lighter than it was when she hatched (bad picture, hard to tell)
 

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GreatGeckos

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The baby looks jungle tangerine , if the mom was raptor (it is just raptor not raptor eclipse because raptor already means it has eclipse in it, the R in raptor means red eye, it's the albino exspression of eclipse eyes.) anyways :) if the mom was raptor it would be het raptor . It's a very nice baby! Really nice orange on him/her if you breed the baby back to mom / siblings it will produce beautiful raptors and hets
 
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CharmedMom

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Very cute little one.
I recently had a similar pairing (SHTCT & Raptor) and got a little one with a tail that looked like your little one.
I was told it may have something to do with RAPTORs having a stripe and/or reverse stripe genes which is most likely why it has the stripe down it's tail. Here's the link to my board if you're interested: http://geckoforums.net/f124-show-off-your-leos/94539.htm
Does this little one have a clutch mate? Or did Mom only lay one egg?
 

DrCarrotTail

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I would agree that the middle picture of the baby looks like an SHT - I would assume the dark areas will fade to solid orange as he grows but he might have a few spots.
 

Eyaliss

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No, baby doesn't have a clutch mate. The other egg went bad during incubation. I do however have 2 more that are due to hatch in about a week from the same set of parents, so I'm curious to see what the others will look like.
 

Eyaliss

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Oh wow, I'm a bonehead. I should have specified who's who in the pictures, lol. The top picture should be Dad, Balios. Middle picture should be baby, Lethe and the last picture is Mom, Eyaliss or Lissa for short.
 

CharmedMom

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No, baby doesn't have a clutch mate. The other egg went bad during incubation. I do however have 2 more that are due to hatch in about a week from the same set of parents, so I'm curious to see what the others will look like.

I'll be anxiously waiting for pics when the other eggs hatch. :)
 

DrCarrotTail

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Does mom have eclipsed eyes? It's unusual for eclipse geckos to have that much pattern as, like Charmed mom said, they have reverse stripe and stripe genes that make them usually patternless. They also tend to have white noses and feet. --I'm just curious :)
 

acpart

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Does mom have eclipsed eyes? It's unusual for eclipse geckos to have that much pattern as, like Charmed mom said, they have reverse stripe and stripe genes that make them usually patternless. They also tend to have white noses and feet. --I'm just curious :)

I'm guessing you mean that it's unusual for "Raptor" (not "eclipse") geckos to have that much pattern, since it's the raptors that have the reverse stripe and stripe genes. Even with the Raptors, though, the offspring can inherit any or all of the striping so could be aberrant, jungle, stripe, reverse stripe or "patternless" (stripe+reverse stripe).

Aliza
 

Eyaliss

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Does mom have eclipsed eyes? It's unusual for eclipse geckos to have that much pattern as, like Charmed mom said, they have reverse stripe and stripe genes that make them usually patternless. They also tend to have white noses and feet. --I'm just curious :)

Mom's snake eyed. 25% on the right and 50% on the left
 

DrCarrotTail

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Very cool! I've never actually seen and eclipsed tremper (Raptor if you want) with horizontal "normal tremper" like stripes before. I was just curious if it was possible. I actually did think most eclipse geckos had patternless bodies as I thought the gene kind of came with the the two opposite striped genetics and breeding pattern in took a bit of selective breeding. Thanks for teaching me something new :)
 

Eyaliss

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I didn't think it was possible either until my son found her at our local expo and told me that I had to get the cool looking girl, lol
 

acpart

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Technically an eclipsed tang tremper with bands (even faded ones) isn't a Raptor since they're supposed to be from stripe line. However, everyone including Ron Tremper himself doesn't pay much attention to the "P" in Raptor (i.e. "patternless") so we may as well hop on the bandwagon.

Aliza
 

Eyaliss

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I posted a new picture of Lethe in the "Show off your Leos" section under My Crew. I can't believe that in 2.5 weeks she has gotten so Orange! I'm super excited :D
 

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