Cornsnake Genetics

[goReptiles]

I have another genetic question that was asked of me. I'm not too familiar with corn snake genetics.

What would breeding a candy cane corn snake with a root beer corn snake?

 

[Tony C]

Root Beers are a Corn x E. emoryi hybrid, and candy canes are amelanistic that have been line bred for better color, so the babies should be Root Beer-ish, but likely with more Corn influence, het for amel. I'm not sure if the line-bred aspect of candy canes will show any influence in non-albino young.

 

[Billybobob]

Tony C is absolutely right.

Candy canes are Amels that have all white ground color with red saddles. Most Candy canes come from Miami phase lines. So chances are the resulting babies will have varying amounts of Miami influence.

Most rootbeers are produced as byproducts of cream projects, so there is a good chance that the root beer will be het amel. But you can't know for sure until the eggs hatch.

Assuming there are no hets you will get more rootbeers(normal Emoryi/Corn hybrids) that will have varying amounts of Emoryi and Miami coloration that are het Amel.

 

[goReptiles]

Sounds complicated. :-/ Are you saying that the breeding will get mostly root beer snakes some may have a little of the candy cane coloring blended in?

Is there any way that you can explain it to me so that I can explain it to someone who knows nothing about breeding snakes and genetics... I'm not sure if the guy will reply back to me again, but in case he does, I'd like to be able to have an answer for him. I told him I would check on it for him.

 

[RampantReptiles]

lol why are you putting candy canes in your root beer.. thats just gross. Maybe you should try ice cream.. make root beer floats mmmmm

Sorry Im just messing all these food words makes this convo pretty funny. (I dont get out much) >_<

 

[lpcad]

Root Beers are a Corn x E. emoryi hybrid, and candy canes are amelanistic that have been line bred for better color, so the babies should be Root Beer-ish, but likely with more Corn influence, het for amel. I'm not sure if the line-bred aspect of candy canes will show any influence in non-albino young.

I agree.

 

[lpcad]

lol why are you putting candy canes in your root beer.. thats just gross. Maybe you should try ice cream.. make root beer floats mmmmm

Sorry Im just messing all these food words makes this convo pretty funny. (I dont get out much) >_<

LOL!!! That's the funniest thing I've heard/read all day! :main_laugh:

 

[dudders]

Actually you could breed a snow and a candy cane, snow is kinda like icecream...Colourwise anyway so mayby you could make rootbeer flote corns???:main_huh:

 

[Billybobob]

Sounds complicated. :-/ Are you saying that the breeding will get mostly root beer snakes some may have a little of the candy cane coloring blended in?

I was just expanding on some of the things Tony C mentioned. But I will try explain it better.

First a little background info:

*Emoryi(great plains rat snake) are usually varying degrees of brown and gray with a pattern similar to corn snakes although they have a higher saddle count.

*Rootbeer a hybrid of the emoryi and corn snake. They are normally brownish in color. Most Rootbeers are produced when people are trying to produce creamsicles. So a good portion of rootbeers are het for amel.

*Miami phase corns are corn snakes that have been selectively bred to have gray/silver background color with deep red saddles. Being a poly-genetic trait when out crossed the resulting babies will have some miami coloring to them(think hypo leos out crossed to normal leos).

*Candy canes are Amel corns that are selectively bred to have high white ground color with bright red saddles. Most candy cane lines come from miami phase lines. So when out crossing Candie canes to normals you get babies that will have varying amounts of miami color influence(again, think hypo leos out crossed to normal leos).


If the root beer was a 50/50 hybrid then the babies will have roughly 25% emoryi blood so the emoryi coloration my come threw but it will be minimal. If it is a 25/75 hybrid then the resulting babies will show almost no emoryi coloring. Emoryi blood tends to wash out red colors on corns to an orange for multiple generations. All babies should be labeled as hybrids.

Knowing that most candy cane corns come from miami phase lines, much the same way as sunglow leos come from tangerine lines, We can speculate that the babies will also show some miami phase influence. So they will have varying amounts of grey in the background color.

Now taking all that info in to account, The resulting babies will all be normal Emory/Corn hybrids or Rootbeers as they are commonly called. And they will be het for Amel. If the Rootbeer turns out to be het amel you will also get some creamsicles(Amel emoryi/corn), they will most likely have orangish saddles with a orange background that has white specking.

I don't know if that makes it any easier to understand or more complicated, but hopefully adding in the leo references will make it a little easier for you.