Curious About Morph Names

[LookOfWinter]

I have three leopard geckos, all female and from the same breeder. Two are SHCT het for Emerald and Tremper. I know SHCT means "super hypo carrot tail" but what does that mean exactly? How is it different from the other morph that starts with SHCT? Is there just a "super" or just a "hypo" or just a "carrot tail"?

The third one is Creamsicle het Tremper. She looks different from the other two. However, according to my pictures of my two newest ones, both are SHCT but they don't look the same. One looks like my first leo. My pictures are correct as far as what they were labeled, so why do my SHCTs not look the same and one looks like the one labled as a Creamsicle?

I will have to take pictures in the morning but one of my labeled SHCT looks like the one in this thread, except mine is anorexic (working on it): http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=60923&highlight=SHCT. The other SHCT and the labeled Creamsicle are yellow and purple with lots of black dots. I'll get pictures tomorrow I promise!

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

A SHCT broken down means Super Hypo (very reduced pattern and should have no spots at all), Carrot tail meaning that 30% of the tail should be solid orange with no break in the color. A hypo will still have spots but be reduced drastically from a normal. Other morphs with a SHTCTB...the first T implies that the gecko is tangerine in color and the B means baldy (no spotting on the head at all).

Creamsicles are very often sold and not really Creamsicles. It takes many generations to create them and a lot of people put 1 or 2 seasons into it and call them Creamsicles. Creamsicles often times will brown out or color up completely as they mature due to the Mack Snow in them. Many breeders who sell them try to sell them before they are 20g because thats when they look the best (or like most people think they should look). I have 8th generation Creamsicle projects going and I have some that stay whit and tangerine bands and some that have colored up brighter than a lot of tangerines I have seen. The only way for you to be certain it is a Creamsicle for sure is to see pics of them as a black and white baby or trust the breeder who is selling it to you. If you send me some pics of it as young as you have, I should be able to help you identify it better. I work a lot with Creamsicles so if you have questions about them feel free to PM me at any time.

Here is the development of one of our Creams
7g

18g

48g

 

[LookOfWinter]

Mine definitely don't look like that. I can give you some very icky pictures that I took with my webcam when I first got the two newest ones in May of 2010. One is supposed to be a 2009 and the other I guess is a 2008, both labeled SHCT het Emerald and Tremper. I also have some very bad pictures of my first who is supposed to be a 2009 Creamsicle het Tremper. They've always looked the same for me, so I can't give what they looked like as babies.

So, first is my "cream" and then my two "SHCT":

Sorry again for the terrible quality. I'll take better ones once I get home.

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

Well that may be a cream but certainly a 1st or 2nd gen if it is. The other two; the first is a shct (may have been more tang when it was younger) and the second looks like a normal...no tangerine nor is it hypo and no tail coloring at all. It actually looks like it could be a snow too.

 

[LookOfWinter]

So just to make sure I got it, I have a possible 1st/2nd gen Cream, a correctly labeled SHCT, and a normal or snow.

The normal/snow isn't a SHCT because the tail is blue/purple? If this is the case, what makes a snow different physically from a normal?

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

Snows and normals look similar sometimes as adults. They are easily distinguished as babies but not always so as adults. And the reason it is not a SHCT is because its not Hypo and there is no Tangerine color on the gecko. The tail has to be 30% from base to tip colored in order to be a CT.

 

[tlbowling]

A SHCT broken down means Super Hypo (very reduced pattern and should have no spots at all), Carrot tail meaning that 30% of the tail should be solid orange with no break in the color. A hypo will still have spots but be reduced drastically from a normal. Other morphs with a SHTCTB...the first T implies that the gecko is tangerine in color and the B means baldy (no spotting on the head at all).

Creamsicles are very often sold and not really Creamsicles. It takes many generations to create them and a lot of people put 1 or 2 seasons into it and call them Creamsicles. Creamsicles often times will brown out or color up completely as they mature due to the Mack Snow in them. Many breeders who sell them try to sell them before they are 20g because thats when they look the best (or like most people think they should look). I have 8th generation Creamsicle projects going and I have some that stay whit and tangerine bands and some that have colored up brighter than a lot of tangerines I have seen. The only way for you to be certain it is a Creamsicle for sure is to see pics of them as a black and white baby or trust the breeder who is selling it to you. If you send me some pics of it as young as you have, I should be able to help you identify it better. I work a lot with Creamsicles so if you have questions about them feel free to PM me at any time.

Here is the development of one of our Creams
7g

18g

48g

I cant get over that cream starting out black and white! Talk about change! WOW!

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

Yea they all change quite a bit. One of the reasons they are at the top of my list of morphs.