Disturbing video...

[gaparicio]

I just wanted to get this off my chest about a video I just saw. Some guy placed a leopard gecko in with his snapping turtle so it could eat it for lunch. I know many people feed their pets many things including chicks, ducklings, mice, rats and rabbits but I have never seen a leo as feeders.

Sorry but that just turned my stomach just seeing it and I felt like venting.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Someone posted the link to that awhle back. Sick.

 

[Nigel4less]

What is going through kids minds now-a-days... I guess that sounds sketchy coming from me sense I am a kid... :/ That is a horrible and disgusting video and someone on YouTube put up a video of a Red Ackie eating a hatchling DISGUSTING

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

this is old news and if it bothered you, why would you really want to spread it around even more to draw more attention to it? I know that evenyone needs to vent but now there are no telling how many kids (that did or did not see it the first time) will go look for it and make it even more popular and even more viewed.

 

[gaparicio]

If I can't vent here, where else can I vent? That's what this forum is for.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

If I can't vent here, where else can I vent? That's what this forum is for.

Thank you for not posting the link to that disturbing video like the prior thread! You know, it makes me wonder if the kids who find entertainment in this kind of animal torture wind up growing up into serial killers.

 

[The NY Gecko]

Now, without stepping on any toes, because I don't know how many of you use feeders. If you do though, you really shouldn't say anything. To do so is hypocritical. Yes, it is ignorant that these prepubescent kids do the messed up things they do for kicks, but it's a reality and nothing is going to change it. I wish there was a way to prevent every angst ridden teenage ogre out there who performs these kinds of misgivings from doing this kinda stuff, but sadly there isn't much we can do but shake our heads in disgust. However, if you manage to find one of them in person, I don't think a swift kick to the rump would be very unreasonable.

 

[Scott&Nikki]

Greg, I couldn't agree more. But then again, this coming from a guy that eats whole cow heads (haha just playin around). But I agree with Tom. As disgusting as that is, how is it different than feeders, or even humans eating meat?

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

Well, the crickets we feed out are raised to be feeders, the meat we humans eat is raised for just that purpose, they are not bred and raised in the pet trade to be pets. I really doubt there are any leo breeders breeding leos to be used as feeders. :main_rolleyes:

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

As disgusting as that is, how is it different than feeders, or even humans eating meat?

There is a BIG difference. When we feed insects to our animals or eat a steak dinner, it isn't for the entertainment value. When people film the torture process of animals being devoured, it is for sheer deranged and morbid entertainment.

 

[gaparicio]

I can take snakes or large lizards eating mice and rats simply because I hate rodents and they are raised as feeders. I can't seem to stomach small snakes eating pinkies because they remind me of babies. Feeder leopard geckos just seems way out of place. Even then, why would you film it? That's my biggest question. People do weird and sick things but filming them makes you even more sick.

Eating delicious cow heads is totally different since they are farm raised. But you won't see me filming during dinner time.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Eating delicious cow heads is totally different since they are farm raised. But you won't see me filming during dinner time.

And you generally won't see films of the cattle being slaughtered, either. The majority of people wouldn't find the killing of animals for the purposes of food entertaining.

 

[geckohaven]

Well, the crickets we feed out are raised to be feeders, the meat we humans eat is raised for just that purpose, they are not bred and raised in the pet trade to be pets. I really doubt there are any leo breeders breeding leos to be used as feeders. :main_rolleyes:

i beg to differ with you, i eat alot of deer which is not raised for me to eat. i go out and kill it myself, butcher it myself, package myself and cook it myself. but at the same time deer are also raised for exotic pet trade. am i a demon now. i see no difference in some one feeding off a leopard gecko than forsay a house gecko or an anole. there are many snakes and large lizards in the pet trade that also are LIZARD EATERS. this kind of stuff happens in the wild all the time. there are many animals in the wild that would eat a leopard gecko and i'm sure many do. i'm really shocked that there are as many of you complaining about this as there are. i'm sure i'll be flamed for this post but think about this alittle bit.

 

[geckohaven]

There is a BIG difference. When we feed insects to our animals or eat a steak dinner, it isn't for the entertainment value. When people film the torture process of animals being devoured, it is for sheer deranged and morbid entertainment.

again have to ad my 2 cents again. i hunt for two reasons. #1 i get the biggest rush right before i kill the animal i'm hunting. #2 i also hunt because i love deer meat. i also watch hunting shows which show animals being shot over and over again all day long. before money took over the world and people got so lazy every man on earth did this same thing. also i have an addiction to the discovery channel and see alot of stuff killed by other animals but still you never hear any thing about that BARBARIC filmography. BTW i was on youtube the other day and watched a U.Milli hunt down kill and eat a cricket so why isnt someone raving about that either?

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

I don't have a problem with feeding lizards to lizard-eating reptiles. I don't take issue with feeding rodents to rodent-eating animals. I have nothing against hunting for sport (although I would never kill an animal for the thrill of it), or food, (I love to eat wild pig).

What I do have a problem with is feeding animals to other animals for the sheer pleasure of watching them be devoured, and filming it. I personally do not find it entertaining.

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

i beg to differ with you, i eat alot of deer which is not raised for me to eat. i go out and kill it myself, butcher it myself, package myself and cook it myself. but at the same time deer are also raised for exotic pet trade. am i a demon now. i see no difference in some one feeding off a leopard gecko than forsay a house gecko or an anole. there are many snakes and large lizards in the pet trade that also are LIZARD EATERS. this kind of stuff happens in the wild all the time. there are many animals in the wild that would eat a leopard gecko and i'm sure many do. i'm really shocked that there are as many of you complaining about this as there are. i'm sure i'll be flamed for this post but think about this alittle bit.

I don't think the person that made that video went out and caugt a wild leoprd gecko in itsnatural habitat to feed it to a leopard gecko eating species. he bought a pet to make a video of it being eaten for pure fun and excitement of doing it.

I also don't think you go out and buy a pet deer to just kill it and eat it and make a video of such actions, you by your own statement go out and hunt a wild deer in its natural habitit, hunt etc.

2 totally diferent things going on there.

 

[gaparicio]

I don't have a problem with watching documentaries where animals hunt and eat their prey. I don't have a problem with you hunting, preparing and eating deer. That's pretty natural to me. What is questioned here like Marcia said is something like a gecko given to a turtle as a meal and filming it. Those animals will never see each other in the wild. It's not natural. Lion Vs. Zebra, Cheetah Vs. Deer, Tarantula Vs. Cricket, all natural. If someone gave their 10 foot boa a Bichon Frise for lunch and for the sheer pleasure of it and put it on the internet, you would think that would be normal or entertaining?

We are on this forum because we love the gecko hobby. We have a bond with these little critters. When they die, there is even a place here where you can mourn them. We spend hundreds, even thousands of dollars taking care of them and making sure they are as healthy as can be. We don't consider leopard geckos as disposable pets like the video showed.

 

[The NY Gecko]

We are on this forum because we love the gecko hobby. We have a bond with these little critters. When they die, there is even a place here where you can mourn them. We spend hundreds, even thousands of dollars taking care of them and making sure they are as healthy as can be. We don't consider leopard geckos as disposable pets like the video showed.

Which is why everyone gets in such an uproar over this. I love my gecko, but am I upset everytime something like this happens? No, not really. I accept it as fact and move on. There will always be imbeciles out there who do things that just plain suck. We can't do much but complain and it stinks. It's better to just move on though and not waste energy over it.

 

[RaiQuee]

I agree with Marcia. I had a large rough neck monitor that would eat lizards and depending what was cheap that day sometimes came acrossed the occassional leopard gecko. Not to mention she got much too large to be eating house geckos and anoles. I never fed her lizards to make her more aggressive, or for the thrill of watching her eat another animal. It was because it was an IMPORTANT part of her diet, and if she was fed only a rodent diet, she would become obese and suffer. If she didn't need them in her diet for her survival, she wouldn't have gotten them. Simply put.

This doesn't make me sick and twisted, I never filmed it nor laughed hysterically while it happened. Its a fact of life, and when we take in captive animals to be pets or bred, we need to feed them things that match their diet. For the books, I fed her a LOT of birds and boiled eggs in replacement for reptiles (which will make any parakeet owner flip their lid, i'm sure.)

Altho I've always cringed when I used to work in the pet store and someone would come in and make sickening jokes about going to feed his snake at home. Or how he only wanted to feed it live, as they liked watching the snake kill it despite the fact that frozen has been proved SO MUCH BETTER for snakes than live. When it comes down to it, there are people who do it for the love of the animal, and people who do it for the sick and twisted fun of it all.

Feeding a leopard gecko to a snapping turtle? Probably a waste of money. I don't believe turtles eat a whole lot of "reptile" protien, and think that something else would have been much more suited. Is it nature? Yes. Is it sick to put it up on youtube and think its "awesome" and "sweet!". Yes.

 

[geckohaven]

I don't have a problem with feeding lizards to lizard-eating reptiles. I don't take issue with feeding rodents to rodent-eating animals. I have nothing against hunting for sport (although I would never kill an animal for the thrill of it), or food, (I love to eat wild pig).

What I do have a problem with is feeding animals to other animals for the sheer pleasure of watching them be devoured, and filming it. I personally do not find it entertaining.

i guess i'm really missing something here but, snapping turtles will eat anything. and i'm sure if a leopard geckos was to walk out in front of one in the wild the gecko would be gone. i have not seen the film and dont know what the reaction of the people who posted so i guess i'll shut my mouth. as for hunting for sport, most hunters dont do it because they have to, we do it because we love the thrill of the hunt and kill. and watch it on tv for entertainment.