Eclipse(bloodcross)

ezra3011

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Is there a difference if you say eclipse(bloodcross) to a blood cross eclipse.
Would a blood eclipse x raptor parent produce those lg?
 

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Kristi23

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When I was crossing my blood eclipse from JMG to a non blood eclipse, I would call those babies blood eclipse crosses. Once I cross those babies with something non blood, I generally don't mention the blood part anymore unless asked.

I used a blood cross het eclipse/bell and eclipse het bell this season. I called the babies radars, bells, and eclipse since there was only a little blood in there.
 

VampyreByte

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There are some people out there that label all the crosses of their leo's. I find it to be completely ridiculous and confusing to people who don't know genetics that well.
It tells me they aren't completely sure what genes are showing so they are just going to tell you what the breeding was and let you decide for yourself what the genetics are.
Kristi is right i believe in once it gets past one season of outcrossing to something unrelated that it doesn't need to be mentioned unless asked about.

Of course i'm only talking about the line bred traits (blood, various tangs[electric, atomic, mandarin, etc.], Emerine, Red stripes). If you can't see the line bred trait in the leo it shouldn't be listed as having it.

So my belief is to label the line bred traits that can be seen (or at least 1 generation out crossed) and the the other traits such as dominants, co-doms, recessives and hets.

Just as long as its not confusing or misleading to the people looking at buying the Leo's. Then if questions are raised from the buyer or interested party you can mention what the breedings have been and why you label them the way you do.
 

acpart

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I do it the same way as Kristi. As a matter of fact, I bought a blood cross female from her 2 years ago (who is a really pretty pastel orange, but doesn't look like a blood) and don't mention "blood" at all when describing her offspring. On the other hand, I have a boldstripe produced from 2 of Kelli Hammack's bolds and I do label the offspring boldstripe crosses.

Aliza
 

ezra3011

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Thank you for all of your insights, I could you say that I got tricked by the seller coz he keeps on saying that it is a eclipse(bloodcross) when in fact that it was already a grandson of the blood morph? I'm talking about prices, since a pure blood morph sells 20k to 15k here in the Phil's. A blood cross eclipse sells much cheaper, and the offspring of the blood eclipse x raptor must be way cheaper than the blood eclipse father.
 

Kristi23

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Thank you for all of your insights, I could you say that I got tricked by the seller coz he keeps on saying that it is a eclipse(bloodcross) when in fact that it was already a grandson of the blood morph? I'm talking about prices, since a pure blood morph sells 20k to 15k here in the Phil's. A blood cross eclipse sells much cheaper, and the offspring of the blood eclipse x raptor must be way cheaper than the blood eclipse father.

I wouldn't say you got tricked. Some sellers will do things differently. It's still technically a cross, but I personally wouldn't say that it is one. That's just me and how I label things. I pay based on quality and genetics. If a gecko doesn't look good enough, I'll go somewhere else. I wouldn't automatically pay more for something that is a cross unless it was showing the characteristics of it.
 

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