Eclipse or Mack Snow Eclipse?

[staceyleigh]

So my 1st little hatchling has me a little stumped. I thought it was a Reverse Stripe Eclipse, but the colors have me not so sure. Now I am thinking it could be a Mack Snow Eclipse? I contacted the breeder I got the Mom from and although I thought she was just Eclipse, it is possible she is a snow Eclipse. Dad of this baby is definitely Eclipse. This baby has 1 snake eye, and one total eclipse eye. Here is some pics I took tonight, let me know what you think.

 

[acpart]

I would have said it's too yellow to be an eclipse, but I've been corresponding with Kristi about one of mine and according to her many Mack snow ceclpses are yellower than non eclipses.
Here's the gecko in question (just hatched last week):


(It's even darker in "person")

Aliza

 

[staceyleigh]

I am positive it's Eclipse, it is the Mack snow part I wasn't so sure of. When born it was totally black and white, a little pale yellow has started to creep in now.

 

[Kristi23]

Can I see the hatchling picture (before first shed)? Maybe pics of the parents, too.

 

[Kristi23]

Here is another recent thread. http://geckoforums.net/f125-morphs-genetics/100148.htm

 

[Kristi23]

Some people you could maybe contact and ask are Michelle at Rampant, Bryan Jett, or Steve Skyes. I believe they have all worked with mack eclipse. I'm not sure who else has.

 

[staceyleigh]

Here are more pics; 1st is baby, then Mom, then Dad. Dad is definitely eclipse ph Tremper, Mom is Eclipse, but could also be mack snow according to the breeder.

 

[WLG_KD]

Dad looks a lot like my Mack Snow Eclipse girl, Elysium. She's on the right (the one on the left is also a Mack Snow Eclipse, from a different breeder). She's darker/brighter yellow now a bit, the photo is a few months old, but you get the idea.

 

[Kristi23]

That's tough! Mack eclipse can be hard to identify. I haven't bred any recently, but when I did, I always had to ask opinions. I know what my regular eclipse look like, so it became easier for me to tell which ones were mack.

 

[Kristi23]

I sent a message to Bryan and Michelle. Not sure if they'll have time, but hopefully one of them can help out.

 

[RampantReptiles]

Ive seen this baby before, awesome first hatch! Grats, Stacey.
I think I was one of the first people to say it looked MS so Im sticking with that. Considering the color of the parents and the white it had on it as a baby and continues to have, def MS.

 

[Kristi23]

Michelle, do you have any mack eclipse hatchling pics you can share? There is such a large variety with some having the black and white banding and then others hatching darker with white and a little yellow.

 

[staceyleigh]

Thank you, Kristy, Michele and all who have helped figure this out! I do remember Michele you commenting on the baby pic that you thought it was a Mack Snow Eclipse, but at the time I didn't think I had any snow in the parents. I am planning to keep this one. 1st hatched baby, and unique looking equals keeper to me!

 

[SCGeckos]

I say it is a Mack Eclipse as well. I believe I have commented on this animal as well in a FB Group but here is a very similar Mack Eclipse to compare. One pic at hatch and one after the first shed.

 

[staceyleigh]

Wow, I can't believe how much your pics look like my baby. Thanks for sharing!

 

[acpart]

I'm still puzzled about my hatchling. It's pictured in post #2 above just after hatching. Here it is at 1 week old after first shed:



To me it seems way to yellow at 1 week of age to be a Mack snow. Any other opinions?

Aliza

 

[Kristi23]

Aliza, yours looks less mack now, but I still can't tell for sure.

 

[scm133]

Aliza, here are some updated pictures of my two Mack Snow Eclipses @ 2 weeks. They did look like yours at the beginning. Hope this helps. Parents were Total Eclipse and Snow Raptor.