Educating a gecko owner

Sakmeht

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So, I'm really new - and talking about educating others makes me laugh a bit, because I've been researching leopard geckos for about 2 weeks now, and so I'm really a newbie myself. But, I have the basics down. Cool/warm/moist hide. Warm side temp 93 or so, cool side about 75, etc... feeding, gutloading, dusting, tile substrate, 20 gallons tank, etc...

The reason we have a gecko in the first place is because our neighbor has two and my kids fell in love with them. And the more I researched geckos, the more I sadly realized that she wasn't keeping hers properly. I didn't say anything though, until today - when she came over, saw my setup and started asking questions. THEN, I proceeded to educate her about what I've learned. I knew that's how I wanted to do it. No one wants to be preached at, but if they are genuinely interested the info will be retained (and hopefully implemented!)

Her setup is 2 leopard geckos in a 10 gallon (larger one always draped over the smaller) with no substrate, one hide, no moist hide, and they are fed crickets and mealworms (no clue how many) with no gutloading or dusting. There is also no heat. The tank is room temp which ranges from 70 in the winter to probably really warm in the summer as they don't run their AC (Nampa, ID temps can get up in the high 90's regularly). They keep the tank in the bathroom for the extra humidity (which is short and fleeting). She says they pick off the shedding skin in pieces and feed it back to the geckos.

She's the sweetest gal - from Russia, so we have some very interesting conversations, but I was glad to talk to her about my setup and how the heat helps digestions and the moist hide helps shedding. We didn't talk about everything, but it was a start.

Have any of you had any similar situations with friends/acquaintances/family and how did you handle it?

Cheers!
 

Embrace Calamity

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I actually just had a similar experience with someone I didn't even know. I ran into a woman at the pet store who was looking at calcium sand, and I said that if I may make a suggestion, it would be better in the long run to avoid calcium sand. I said I didn't know what she was looking for, but it's just not safe for anything. Then we got to talking and it turns out her son left his leopard gecko with her while he's looking for a place that will allow him to have it, and she had no idea what she was doing (though it sounds like he didn't either, since she was following his advice). The gecko was in a 10 gallon on calcium sand with only a regular light bulb (left on 24/7) with no supplementation, no humid hide, and only one dry hide. I offered to take it, but she said since it was her son's, she couldn't just give it away. So I gave her as much advice as I could and suggested what to buy to help keep it healthy. I hope that it hasn't already ingested too much of the calcium sand, but since it wasn't being given any calcium and she described it as already being close to adult size, I'm afraid it probably has.

~Maggot
 

Paula Marez

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I think it's so great that you got a chance to help your neighbor understand what these leos need. Nice job presenting the info in a helpful, non-confrontational manner.

You know, if this happened to me, and I noticed my neighbor/friend still didn't have a hide or something, I might make a cheap one and give it to her but just say "I had this but I don't need it and wondered it you wanted it...." or something like that.
 

Sakmeht

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I think it's so great that you got a chance to help your neighbor understand what these leos need. Nice job presenting the info in a helpful, non-confrontational manner.

You know, if this happened to me, and I noticed my neighbor/friend still didn't have a hide or something, I might make a cheap one and give it to her but just say "I had this but I don't need it and wondered it you wanted it...." or something like that.

Paula, I actually did this today. I was going over to drop off something and I was like, "I have an extra heat pad, would you like it?" I also took over a digital thermometer with probe (for her to borrow) and told her how to attach it. I didn't have a dimmer or thermostat to lend so I told her to watch the temp and if it got over 95/96 or so she'd need to unplug it and get a dimmer or thermostat. Sounds like she's willing to give it a try. I mentioned that she'll need a cool hide, too. Who knows, we'll see how it goes.

(She also has a turtle that is being kept inadequately, but I'm not even going there!)
 

Sakmeht

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I think it's so great that you got a chance to help your neighbor understand what these leos need. Nice job presenting the info in a helpful, non-confrontational manner.

You know, if this happened to me, and I noticed my neighbor/friend still didn't have a hide or something, I might make a cheap one and give it to her but just say "I had this but I don't need it and wondered it you wanted it...." or something like that.

Hi Paula,

I actually did this today. I told her I had an extra heat pad, which I did, and asked if she wanted it. She said yes, so I also brought over my cool side digital thermometer with probe for her to borrow temporarily and told her how to use it. I mentioned that she'd need to get a dimmer or thermostat if the temp went much over 95/96. We also talked about the need for a cool hide. I said also that she could use paper towel if she didn't want to buy other substrates for a moist hide. She seemed open to all of the ideas, so I can only hope this takes off. :)
 

katie_

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I was at a local petsore on the weekend for an adoption day and over heard a young employee encourage a couple to buy calcium sand for their king snake.
I interviened, probably quite rudely, but they didnt buy the sand. "Thats your opinion, we recommend that they go on sand here" is what I was told by the employee.
 

Embrace Calamity

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I was at a local petsore on the weekend for an adoption day and over heard a young employee encourage a couple to buy calcium sand for their king snake.
I interviened, probably quite rudely, but they didnt buy the sand. "Thats your opinion, we recommend that they go on sand here" is what I was told by the employee.
That's idiotic. I don't think anyone even keeps kingsnakes on regular sand. I've never heard of such a thing, especially since it doesn't hold burrows. Usually it's aspen bedding or, what I prefer for mine, a planted viv. Regular sand probably wouldn't hurt, but it doesn't seem to ever be done with any snakes other than sand boas.

~Maggot
 

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