Embers

[sickygnar89]

I've read that embers are produced by pairing a tremper patternless albino to a RAPTOR. I was just wondering if this is true? I'm just getting into genetics and such.

 

[sunshinegeckos]

Yep you are correct

 

[winwin]

The raptor would have to be het murphy and the albino patternless would have to be het eclipse...

 

[sunshinegeckos]

you are correct. I was just answering to the fact that those 2 morphs together are what make up the ember. It would take a few years of line breeding to produce quality ones.

 

[winwin]

you are correct. I was just answering to the fact that those 2 morphs together are what make up the ember. It would take a few years of line breeding to produce quality ones.

I'm sorry, I wasn't implying that you were wrong. I was just giving the shortcut...

 

[sunshinegeckos]

oh I know I was just clarifying what I meant

 

[sickygnar89]

Okay. Is Murphy the same as patternless or is it different?

 

[Taquiq]

There are two types of Patternless. Murphy Patternless (a recessive morph) and Patternless Stripe (The "P" in RAPTOR).

 

[sickygnar89]

Oh okay. So would the patternless on the tremper albino would be considered Murphy patternless?

 

[sunshinegeckos]

No it would be the patternless stripe

 

[stager]

The more I see them the more I want one.

 

[sickygnar89]

Boy are genetics confusing lol but I appreciate all your input. But I know. I first saw an ember when I spoke with James from EmberGecko.com. He is the coolest guy and very knowledgeable. He inspired me

 

[100yan]

According to the LG Wiki, the Ember is produced when combining Murphy Patternless with RAPTOR? http://www.leopardgeckowiki.com/index.php?title=Ember
So, this is wrong?

 

[im faster]

a raptor is already a patternless stripe so a ember cant be the same..

 

[sunshinegeckos]

Best bet to really understand them is contact Garrick Demeyer with crestedgecko.com he first created the morph.

 

[winwin]

I'm no expert but I'll try to share what I know, pls do correct me if I'm wrong...
A raptor means Ruby-eyed Albino Patternless Tremper Orange, but the Patternless in Raptor is a polygenic trait, an ember need to be a Raptor Muphy Patternless, in which Murphy Patternless being a recessive trait.