Enigma percentages.

[yellermelon]

Ok I was just looking at the wiki description of the enigma. It states you can have the homo, and het of the enigma... The enigma het provides 50% normals, where as the homo enigma provides 100% enigmas even when bred to a wild type. I was just wondering if this has been proven? Has anyone bred an enigma to a albino or somthing simular and got 100% enigmas? I dont mean for this post to confuse anyone lol, just trying to grasp the concept for myself.
Chris

 

[Halley]

Well of course you would get 100%, you only have to have one copy of the enigma gene to have an enigma. So if one parent had two, then one would have to go to each offspring, making 100% heterozygous enigmas.

I think it has been proven indirectly because dominate genes work that way.

 

[Paco]

There has not been a Homozygous Enigma produced to date. People can Indirectly assume all they want but until it's proven out we will only Assume that it's possible to produce the Homozygous Enigma. There are a Lot of Proven Homozygous Dominant Mutations, but there are also plenty of Homozygous Lethal Mutations. There was a long thread about this a while back I started because I had questions about the wiki explanation as well. Do a search about Homozygous enigma's it should come up.

 

[yellermelon]

Thanks^ Thats what I was wondering, I guess I missed the original thread!

 

[Halley]

Can you post a link to the original thread, Paco?

And I think I misinterpreted the question last time. I thought you where asking if you had a homozygous animal how you knew all the offspring would be het. But… I would also assume that there are homozygous enigmas out there right now. Some people probably see how much enigmas cost, buy a pair, and breed the together, hoping to make offspring that cost what they paid for the parents. Nobody has proven it yet, but I would say we have a good number of them out there.

 

[Paco]

Can you post a link to the original thread, Paco?

And I think I misinterpreted the question last time. I thought you where asking if you had a homozygous animal how you knew all the offspring would be het. But… I would also assume that there are homozygous enigmas out there right now. Some people probably see how much enigmas cost, buy a pair, and breed the together, hoping to make offspring that cost what they paid for the parents. Nobody has proven it yet, but I would say we have a good number of them out there.

Nic... You would think this, but it does not seem this way. Kelli did a few Enigma to Enigma breedings and did not get the outcomes we would expect it's in the thread.

http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=20322&highlight=confused

 

[godzillizard]

Nobody has proven it yet, but I would say we have a good number of them out there.

and my best hypothesis is that they don't/can't exist
I think the next question is: Of all the eggs that hatched from enigma to enigma pairings--how many didn't hatch? sub lethals in our controlled environments are in effect, lethals in nature. Even 'regular' albinos would be considered a lethal gene in a natural environment, since they stick out like a sore thumb-they'd get eaten up, soon after hatching...

I'm not insinuating that these issues can't be at least partially resolved through outcrossing, but that does remain one of many possibilities--some conditions are genetically synonymous with certain traits--just look at the dog breeds. This is all an emerging science! and so far, my experience tells me that the questions will always outweigh the answers.