Extremely lethargic, not moving much, inactive

[Lizardfrog]

About your leo:
- Male
- 7 years old
- I have owned him for 2 years
- Acquired from pet store

A) Health/History
- How often do you handle your leo
- Is your leo acting any different today? If so how does he/she normally act which differs from now.
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe.

B) Fecals
- They do look normal
- I do not know the last time he passed feces, there are only a few old ones in the vivarium which leads me to fear intestinal impaction

C) Problem
- Extremely lethargic, does not move much, shallow breathing, sleeps excessively, only responds if actually touched. Has been going on for a few weeks.

Housing:
A) Enclosure
- 24 x 18 x 18
- Glass with metal ventilation on the top half
- Ground walnut substrate
- Three hides, underneath a piece of cork, behind a desert plant, and behind a rock pile

B) Heating
- Infrared heat lamp
- Cage temps (High 20s hot side, medium/low 20s cool side, variable on both sides)
- A piece of cork to hide under and some shade behind the rocks
- Thermometer
- Infrared heat lamp

C) Cage mates
- Solitary

Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
- Crickets, usually 6-10 at a time
- They have the run of the viv

B) Supplements (describe how often)
- ExoTerra Calcium D3

I know this is frustratingly little to go on, but he just doesn't seem right. It has been happening for a few weeks and now seems to be getting worse.

 

[gecko4245]

There is so much wrong. Never use any lose substrate for leopard geckos.
His temps should be 75f on cold side- 90-95 in hot side. He should have a UTH for belly heat. You should have plain calcium and calcium with D. Don't use vitD every day and you need a vitamin and mineral supplement. He needs to see a vet like today. you should keep track of everytime he poops and throw it out quickly.
He might be impacted becasue you used ground walnut. If you don't take him to the vet quick he will die.

 

[Lizardfrog]

Called a reptile expert and she said he was adjusting to the shorter days as he is close to a window. Is this a possibility?

 

[gecko4245]

I can't. My parents won't let me because it's "too expensive". I know exactly where to take him, but they think he's just "hibernating". I'm going to get them to read your post.

Please parents take him to the vet quickly.
Extremely lethargic, does not move much, shallow breathing,
Those are very serious signs.

Shallow breathing is one of the worst symptoms a gecko can have.

 

[gecko4245]

He is suffering. Show them this too.

http://whitney05.hubpages.com/hub/Impaction

 

[Lizardfrog]

Hang on...now he' moving around and eating?

 

[nnoossss]

Take the time and money too see a vet and not over the phone. They dont have the lil guy in front off them, and take it too an experienced reptile vet with feedback not someone that is gona feed you crap for the moneys.

 

[Lizardfrog]

Take the time and money too see a vet and not over the phone. They dont have the lil guy in front off them, and take it too an experienced reptile vet with feedback not someone that is gona feed you crap for the moneys.

Well he does seem to be improving actually. He's mow up on the wall, and he seems to have eaten. I'll try to get him to the vet, but my parents are extremely stubborn.

 

[reps4life]

About your leo:
- Male
- 7 years old
- I have owned him for 2 years
- Acquired from pet store

A) Health/History
- How often do you handle your leo
- Is your leo acting any different today? If so how does he/she normally act which differs from now.
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe.

B) Fecals
- They do look normal
- I do not know the last time he passed feces, there are only a few old ones in the vivarium which leads me to fear intestinal impaction

C) Problem
- Extremely lethargic, does not move much, shallow breathing, sleeps excessively, only responds if actually touched. Has been going on for a few weeks.

Housing:
A) Enclosure
- 24 x 18 x 18
- Glass with metal ventilation on the top half
- Ground walnut substrate
- Three hides, underneath a piece of cork, behind a desert plant, and behind a rock pile

B) Heating
- Infrared heat lamp
- Cage temps (High 20s hot side, medium/low 20s cool side, variable on both sides)
- A piece of cork to hide under and some shade behind the rocks
- Thermometer
- Infrared heat lamp

C) Cage mates
- Solitary

Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
- Crickets, usually 6-10 at a time
- They have the run of the viv

B) Supplements (describe how often)
- ExoTerra Calcium D3

I know this is frustratingly little to go on, but he just doesn't seem right. It has been happening for a few weeks and now seems to be getting worse.

It would be irresponsible for anyone other than a reptile vet to assume he is well if he has been under these conditions for 2 years.
I highly suggest you spend time reading through this forum to learn all their needs. Make sure you make all the adjustments necessary.
If you cannot afford to pay for a vet visit and all their requirements it would be in the geckos best interest to be rehomed to someone responsible.

 

[Lizardfrog]

It would be irresponsible for anyone other than a reptile vet to assume he is well if he has been under these conditions for 2 years.
I highly suggest you spend time reading through this forum to learn all their needs. Make sure you make all the adjustments necessary.
If you cannot afford to pay for a vet visit and all their requirements it would be in the geckos best interest to be rehomed to someone responsible.

I really want to do this, but my parents won't let me do ANYTHING at all. Even when i suggested we send him to a new home they said 'no, he is fine'.
I'm now considering selling him to someone who can take him to the vet.

 

[Lizardfrog]

He is suffering. Show them this too.

http://whitney05.hubpages.com/hub/Impaction

I know. It's so sad. My parents don't care, they care more about the money. Poor thing
If there is anyone in the region of Burlington who wants a new leo...take him to the vet first if he lasts that long

 

[Dimidiata]

Parents, they suck. Its a fact. I would deffinetly rehome. Atleast your trying to find him a new home(even if they fix it now any future issues will be met with the same stubborness thus its just better he can get to home where his needs wont be questioned). Many times the younger kids on here will simply refuse our advice and ignore it until the animal dies, Your situation is a rough one, deffinetly keep looking.

 

[Lizardfrog]

Parents, they suck. Its a fact. I would deffinetly rehome. Atleast your trying to find him a new home(even if they fix it now any future issues will be met with the same stubborness thus its just better he can get to home where his needs wont be questioned). Many times the younger kids on here will simply refuse our advice and ignore it until the animal dies, Your situation is a rough one, deffinetly keep looking.

Yep. I'm trying to find someone i can give him to.

 

[gecko4245]

I really want to do this, but my parents won't let me do ANYTHING at all. Even when i suggested we send him to a new home they said 'no, he is fine'.
I'm now considering selling him to someone who can take him to the vet.

Put him up for adoption instead. make an ad on the adoption section, maybe someone in ur area will take him.

 

[grboxa]

Put him up for adoption instead. make an ad on the adoption section, maybe someone in ur area will take him.

chances are they bought him the gecko and supplies...so I doubt they will just give it away. That is probably why they said no to giving him away...and as result forced to sell the leo.

 

[grboxa]

Its good to see you would want to rehome, in the mean time make sure you make the adjustments that were in need when someone corrected your husbandry and after that...good luck!.

 

[nnoossss]

wow tell your rents too give me a call, if they want too ill pm u my number crazy how irresponsible some adults can be the best thing you can do is show them the posts that we have made, i dont know how old you are but if you have friends tell them too give you a ride too the vet or a reptile or pet shop and give them the poor helpless thing.