Genetics

[Geckos4Life<3]

I have my geckos in groups of 3's, two female, one male. And I have two groups

In one group I have

Mack snow male
Raptor female
Albino enigma female

What will I get from breeding the Mack snow male to these girls?

I'm not so good with the genetics you see

And in the other group I have

Albino Leucistic male
Tremper enigma female
Super hypo enigma female

And what will I get from breeding the Albuno Leucistic male to these girls??

Are my pairings okay?? If you know what I mean??

Chloee


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[LeopardShade]

You should use the Leopard Gecko Morph Calculator, you can calculate all of your combinations there. And I'm assuming when you say Albino Leucistic, you mean Albino Pattenrless, right?

 

[Geckos4Life<3]

To be truly honest I don't know :/

I bought him when I was in London as an Albino Leucistic. But does that always mean Patternless?


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[GeckoCrossing]

Leucistic is an old term for Petternless. True Leucistics are Blizzards.

 

[RampantReptiles]

Is the Albino Murphy's Patternless a Tremper? If not that would be a problem.

 

[Geckos4Life<3]

Wow. I'm actually lost :/


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[LeopardShade]

I bought him when I was in London as an Albino Leucistic. But does that always mean Patternless?

Like what was said above, Murphy Patternless' are often called Leucistics. This term is incorrect, however, as a true leucistic leopard gecko would be solid white with black/blue eyes. Add an albino gene (any one of the three strains), and you have an "Albino Leucistic" or Albino Patternless. Do you know which albino gene this gecko has? And could you post a picture of the gecko?

Is the Albino Murphy's Patternless a Tremper? If not that would be a problem.

I mentioned that you can combine any one of the three strains with the patternless gene to create an Albino Patternless. What Michelle means here is if your "Albino Leucistic" was, for example, a Rainwater Albino Patternless, and you bred it to your mentioned Tremper Albino Enigma, you'd get a genetic mess of Normal/Enigma offspring that would be het for both strains of albino. The same outcome would result with Bell as well. It's referred to as "crossing the strains" or "muddying the waters" and it's very frowned upon in leopard gecko breeding. That's why it's so important to fully know the genetics of your geckos before you breed them.

Wow. I'm actually lost :/

If you're having a hard time understanding this, maybe you should wait a bit and learn some more about genetics/morphs etc. before you plan on breeding

 

[Thorgecko707]

It is either rainwater or Tremper murphy patternless. Post a few pix?

 

[Wild West Reptile]

That's why it's so important to fully know the genetics of your geckos before you breed them.

If you're having a hard time understanding this, maybe you should wait a bit and learn some more about genetics/morphs etc. before you plan on breeding

Well said.
You are 13 years old and have no idea what you are doing.

Please don't breed your animals until you have a better understanding of what you even have! From the looks of your list of animals that you listed as yours on the ball python section, you are in way over your head and you really don't need to be breeding. Research and learn the basics of genetics before even attempting to breed. The fact that you don't even know what you are putting together is totally ridiculous. Your "parental units" are something else.

 

[Wild West Reptile]

What will I get from breeding the Mack snow male to these girls?

I'm not so good with the genetics you see

And what will I get from breeding the Albuno Leucistic male to these girls??

Are my pairings okay?? If you know what I mean??

To be truly honest I don't know :/

Wow. I'm actually lost :/

Please separate your geckos and try to learn some basics before attempting to breed.

Look at your quotes above….you seriously have no idea what your doing. Just because daddy buys you everything you want, it doesn't give you a right to just start breeding animals you know nothing about. Learn, study, research and wait a few years until your older and have a better grasp on things. Don't be afraid to ask questions here, we will help you, but doing what your doing now will only give yourself a bad reputation.

You have lots of cool animals but you should try and learn how to care for them and at least identify them first. There's a TON of information on this site and the internet…..it's all at your disposal for free.

 

[Geckos4Life<3]

I know how to care for them properly. I definitely do. Im not allowed any animal until I show that I can care for it and 'daddy' doesnt buy me everything you know. I have bought many of my lizards. I know a lot about Royal Python genetics and what off spring they have. Is there any good thread on here on genetics?


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[Geckos4Life<3]

Super Hypo Enigma

Tremper Enigma

Albino Patternless

RAPTOR

Albino Enigma

Mack Snow - in shed


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[tiedxupxinxknots]

Well for starters your keeping in loose substrate which can be fatal in some cases.... if u wanna know genetics just search it or use a morph calculator, just make sure you know what your doing and getting into like enigma syndrome and the pros and cons of breeding..

 

[Wild West Reptile]

I know how to care for them properly. I definitely do. Im not allowed any animal until I show that I can care for it and 'daddy' doesnt buy me everything you know. I have bought many of my lizards.

Ok…that's not what you said in your ball python post. Here's your quote…"my Dad spoils me". So, where did you get the money to pay for your lizards? Do you have a job? Or did you use your allowance? Seriously, your missing the point here. You don't even know what kind of geckos you have and your trying to breed them! PLUS, your substrate…..why do you have it on straw or whatever that is you have it on? Loose substrate is no good! You have a lot to learn and you came to the right place to do it, but please for the sake of the animals, separate them and don't breed until you have a good idea what you are doing. That's all I'm saying. And get them OFF that stuff they are on. Put them on paper towels or tile.

 

[Geckos4Life<3]

It's called aspen and I have never had any problems with it.

Seriously. You all don't need to be so rude. I know you are trying to help but be nice about it. What's wrong. I'm TRYING to learn and all I'm getting is grief. This forum is OBVIOUSLY not for me.


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[Thorgecko707]

I love aspen bedding. Too hard for me to clean though.
Here is a calculator. http://lovegeckos.com/Genetics.aspx

Can you get a clear eye shot of the patternless albino? It's very hard to tell because rainwater and Tremper can look so alike.
Stand strong and take the heat. Read their advice and adjust. Everybody wants you to learn and contribute to the community but most of your groups will only add up to normal hatchlings if you breed.

 

[Geckos4Life<3]

I love aspen bedding. Too hard for me to clean though.
Here is a calculator. http://lovegeckos.com/Genetics.aspx

Can you get a clear eye shot of the patternless albino? It's very hard to tell because rainwater and Tremper can look so alike.
Stand strong and take the heat. Read their advice and adjust. Everybody wants you to learn and contribute to the community but most of your groups will only add up to normal hatchlings if you breed.

I love the bedding too. It's great for the snakes too. That's why I use eat. They don't seem to ever eat/get any. I hand feed them because I just love the way their faces light up when they see a locust lol

Is this any good? I took it a month or so ago for a competition lol I can get a better one if you want


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[Geckos4Life<3]

I just looked at his eyes there and they aren't actually as brown as they are in the picture :S lol. They are a lighter more creamy brown colour


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[Thorgecko707]

Maybe get a better side pic of the full eye. Shine some light on it so the pupil constricts. Those eyes look non albino to me in that pic.

 

[RampantReptiles]

Other than the aspen, which is not an appropriate substrate for a leopard gecko, the only other thing that I can see you need to work on is keeping the morphs and genetics straight. It is really important to keep track of the morphs that you especially the albinos. Crossing albinos is highly frowned upon.

I believe the albino enigma (not the tremper) is a Bell. If it has red eyes then that would definitely confirm it as a bell. Tremper enigmas have orange eyes.