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Spideys Reptiles

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i received these boys and girls in about a month ago, some are not what they were sold to me as. im posting to confirm some and identify others. your help is appreciated.

pic 1 - sold as nova. 35g
pic 2 - sold as super raptor. solid black eyes. 29g
pic 3 - sold as super raptor. solid black eyes. 31g
pic 4 - sold as super snow het ember. 32g
pic 5 - sold as super raptor. solid black eyes. 27g
pic 6 - sold as super raptor. solid black eyes. 25g

value?
 
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Spideys Reptiles

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first group (6) are all females.

pic 1 - sold as super raptor. solid black eyes. 35g female
pic 2 - sold as super raptor. solid black eyes. 40g female
pic 3 - sold as mack raptor. solid red eyes. 38g male
pic 4 - sold as mack raptor. solid red eyes. 36g female
pic 5 - sold as mack raptor. solid red eyes. 37g female

there are more than listed here, many look just like these, these were just the few that i may consider parting with if they dont fit in my breeding plans.
 

tiedxupxinxknots

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they look like accurate descriptions for the most part to me anyways. Though I am not 100% sure bout the nova and super raptors are kinda hard to tell from SSTA, but from some of the pictures i can see the white noses and white feet indicating that those are SS raptors
 

Sunrise Reptile

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The only ones I would question are #3 in the first post, and #2 in the second post. Those look a bit more like Blazing Blizzards to me. I'm not seeing any pattern on them at all. Is it just really faded?

As for the others, they look like what you'd expect those morphs to look like. And that Nova definitely looks like a Nova to me. =)
 

Enigmatic_Reptiles

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There was a thread not too long ago about telling the difference between SST, SR, and SN. You have a lot of SS albinos but you wont know everything they truely are unless you breed em out. Whoever you got them from has a couple listed wrong in my opinion but you should confirm with them and ensure you get genetic paperwork for any SR or SN.
 

zachandjess2904

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The nova should have red eyes solid or snake and all the super raptors should have solid or snake red eyes . If not they are not raptor . You have all them listed with black eyes wich would tell me they are a form of blizzard . I would be checking into these but this is just my feelings.
 

Enigmatic_Reptiles

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The nova should have red eyes solid or snake and all the super raptors should have solid or snake red eyes . If not they are not raptor . You have all them listed with black eyes wich would tell me they are a form of blizzard . I would be checking into these but this is just my feelings.

You have a couple things wrong here. A SS will almost NEVER have snake eyes...I believe I have only ever seen one and it didn't make it to maturity. SS are accompanied by a fully pigmented eye naturally. As far as them being blizzards, I can confidently say that almost all of them are SS...just a matter of what all else is in the genotype is the question. Just to add chaos to the mix, there are also low to no expression eclipses out there. So you can have a Raptor which does not express any eye pigmentation. Lastly, many people will mistake deep red for black when looking at pigmented eyes...but those are clearly albinos so they will have red eyes.

Not trying to be genetic police...just making sure people are getting accurate info. I am no pro, but will chime in if I am confident in my knowledge of the topic at hand.
 

zachandjess2904

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That's fine I agree to a point I was just trying to say that raptor is ruby eye , we produce novas and raptors here and I can tell you that if either came out without ruby eyes they would not be sold as raptor or nove . That would not happen because we know the genetics of our stock but that is what I was saying . And if there is further info needed on the other raptor morphs/combos I'm sure I can get my friend Ron T to get a pm out to the poster. But I'm sure you are correct and that they are SS but my post was on what the animals were titled on the original post .
 

Spideys Reptiles

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im told the breedings of the ones sold as super raptors came from either of these breedings.

mack raptor het patternless x mack raptor het ember

or

mack ember x mack raptor het ember

i appreciate the help guys, i actually picked up these guys just to breed raptors and super raptor females x super raptors just to keep things simple. everything else was to be sold. things didnt really turn out as i had hoped.
 

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