GHOST TREMPER

[randy p]

Ghost Tremper . I can not find any thing about them , Can some one help .Thanks Randy

 

[randy p]

So no one knows ?

 

[meatgecko]

I'm intrested in these "ghosts" I keep getting references to. I can't seem to find any solid info on them though.

 

[Wandering Paddle]

A ghost is a superhypo Mack

 

[meatgecko]

anyone got any pictures?

 

[Griesi]

The "Ray Hine Ghost" is a hypomelanistic/-pattern-mutation, that is not linebred and seems to act dominant.
Pale colors, reduced spotting on the body and no carottail is a typical ghost- this makes them interesting for several Mack Snow projects.
The mutation is pretty old (end of the 90s) but did not find much attention. Not many breeders are working with them these days, I myself try to produce a Ghost Raptor this year.

I`m in a hurry and just can`t find the time to take new pictures of my adult aninmals this week, but the following links may help as well.


http://geckoforums.net/showpost.php?p=3515&postcount=9
http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=1178&highlight=ghost

some of my juvis from last year:

A hatchling from this years pairing Nova x Ghost het Raptor:

 

[randy p]

Griesi, Thank you . I do have a Ray Hine female tang . In Canada it is hard to find any thing at all . That gecko I would love to see when it gets bigger

 

[Nir]

Ghost is shypo-ms, right? so hypo Tremper Mack Snow is "Ghost Tremper"?

 

[Griesi]

Ghost is shypo-ms, right? so hypo Tremper Mack Snow is "Ghost Tremper"?

The Ghost-thing has nothing to do with the Mack Snow. A Mack Ghost is the combination of both traits (Ray Hayne`s ghost line AND Mack Snow), a Tremper Ghost has no Mack Snow involved. It`s just a simple combination of Ray Hayne`s ghost line and a Tremper Albino.

 

[justindh1]

I have been told from a decent sized breeder, that sells quite a bit of ghost, that all the ghost genes do is reduce spotting. They have ZERO effect on the lightening of the body! He also told me that the ghost morph has been line breed to have a brighter body and a carrot tail. Since it is just a dominant hypo i could see this but is this true? I thought the ghost genes affected the color of the body and the amount of spots!

 

[Dragoon Gecko]

I thought the ghost genes affected the color of the body and the amount of spots!

That is true. We are working with ghosts, and they do show differences in colour compared to hypos or mack hypos:

Mack Snow Ghosts get a greenish hue when they mature- our hypo macks never do this, they stay yellow. And often, Ghosts show a different spotting than Hypos. Also, I have noticed that the Ghosts in my Stock tend to change colours during their whole life, while Hypo Macks Stay more or less stable in adulthood and after breeding.
Here are some pics of Mack Snow Ghosts:

http://dragoongecko.com/breeders/msgj/collage_izidor.jpg
http://dragoongecko.com/breeders/msgj/collage_dove.jpg
http://dragoongecko.com/breeders/msgj/collage_thokka.jpg
http://dragoongecko.com/breeders/msgj/collage_merlin.jpg

Same goes for Ghosts & Hypos without the MackSnow gene. You can find some more informations soon about the Ghosts on our hp.

From what I have seen so far, you can cross the Ghost to Albinos and many other lines, and the ghost-gene definitely passes to the next generation. I was always able to tell which offspring was Ghost, and which was not. The Difference is obvious when you hold the geckos in your hands..

Brittney Gougeon has hatched out some very nice Bell Ghosts this year- maybe she wants to share some informations & experiences, too:main_thumbsup:..
/Rebecca

 

[justindh1]

So is it true that ghost today do have carrot tails, can be brighter in color, and no spots on the body? Just trying to figure out their genetics more. I have got a wide range of information and just trying to put the right parts together. I know they are just a dominate hypo. I just figured ghost tend to be lighter or duller in color. I can see over time gaining more orange and having less spots. I have what i bought as a ghost that has no body spots and a light orange carrot tail, could that be?

 

[Wandering Paddle]

So is it true that ghost today do have carrot tails, can be brighter in color, and no spots on the body? Just trying to figure out their genetics more. I have got a wide range of information and just trying to put the right parts together. I know they are just a dominate hypo. I just figured ghost tend to be lighter or duller in color. I can see over time gaining more orange and having less spots. I have what i bought as a ghost that has no body spots and a light orange carrot tail, could that be?

picture?

 

[Roaming Reptiles]

This is a newb question I know. But how do you did a "ghost" is it a Tremper Albino X Mack Snow?

 

[randy p]

It is from a Ray Haynes tang and a mack snow., The Ray Haynes tang is a gold in color . Some thing for the Fall of 09 .

 

[Dragoon Gecko]

Justin, I cannot say for sure as I do not concentrade on Tangerine and Carottail in my Ghost-line. I remember that I saw a hint of orange on the tail of one Ghost once on a pic somewhere, so I assume it might be possible for ghosts to show at least some small amount of Carottail- although it is not very typical for them..

But from what I know, I would say that a ghost tangerine would never show his colours the way a normal tangerine or High Yellow would do, as the ghost-gene affects them. A picture of your animal would help :main_thumbsup:..
/Rebecca

 

[justindh1]

http://www.geckoforums.net/album.php?albumid=136

This link is to the picture of my "ghost" that I have or that i bought as a ghost. Theres another one in my album above it and to the right. I was told that its just the product of line breeding the ghost.

If its just a dominate hypo then I can see that it could get brighter and have no spots over generations. Its just like line breed hypos have got brighter over the years.

Its just that i have one breeder telling me that that his ghost have been breed to be brighter and have no spots and that they arn't ment to lighten the color. Then on the other side i have a knowledgable person telling me that there are no ghost with carrot tails and that the genetics are ment to dull colors out.

Just trying to figure out whos right. If you need any informtions that i can't give on the publim forum then just private message me.