Got a male!

[Star1]

Normal het blizzard, eclipse, tremper. I still don't fully understand how "het" is determined if someone could explain it that would be great I do know what it means, just not how it's determined.

His name is probably going to be Lester, but not 100% sure yet. Ideas welcome!

 

[jobymoby123]

I am a new gecko keeper so can't help with terminology, but I do think he is really cute :+) and Lester seems a fine nsme. Enjiy your new pet.

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[Geckomaster743]

" Het " means the trait is carried but not visible. So if the Gecko has a " Het " trait and he is bred to another gecko that geckos hatchlings may express the gene visually or carry the Het trait themselves. Honestly i don't understand the terms 33%, 66% or 100% het so they usually confuse me but I know for sure that het just means it carries a trait that you can't see and if bred it has chances of showing that trait in the off spring or them carrying it as well.
Any way the gecko is Adorable and lester sounds like a fine name

 

[Caleb C]

First time I actually read about leo genetics, hope this helps, it explained a lot for me as well.
http://www.geckosetc.com/htm/genetics.htm#normalphenotype

 

[Star1]

" Het " means the trait is carried but not visible. So if the Gecko has a " Het " trait and he is bred to another gecko that geckos hatchlings may express the gene visually or carry the Het trait themselves. Honestly i don't understand the terms 33%, 66% or 100% het so they usually confuse me but I know for sure that het just means it carries a trait that you can't see and if bred it has chances of showing that trait in the off spring or them carrying it as well.
Any way the gecko is Adorable and lester sounds like a fine name

I knew that part, what I don't understand is how it's determined. Thanks, my sister picked his name

 

[Star1]

First time I actually read about leo genetics, hope this helps, it explained a lot for me as well.
http://www.geckosetc.com/htm/genetics.htm#normalphenotype

I think I understand now, so basically if they don't show the trait they are "het" for it because they carry it?

 

[Star1]

I knew that part, what I don't understand is how it's determined. Thanks, my sister picked his name

Sorry I answered weird. Thanks for the help.

 

[Caleb C]

I think so, i'm not 100% savvy with leo genetics either

 

[Khenut]

I'm not positive if it's the same, but when I took biology Heterozygous just meant they carried both the dominant and recessive genes. So they displayed the dominant trait but could also produce offspring with the recessive gene if paired with a Dominant recessive or another Heterozygous. I suppose it would be determined after the animal was bred a certain number of times, and the offspring's coloring tallied up in relation to the others. The whole 'grid' complex, like: Aa + Aa = aa, Aa, Aa, AA. So two Hets, one dominant and a recessive? Correct me if I'm wrong, because someday I would like to get into breeding Leos. xD

 

[Star1]

I've got another question too, since Lester is normal het blizzard, eclipse, tremper, would I have to breed him to a female that's blizzard or tremper to get blizzard or tremper babies?

 

[Geckomaster743]

I'm not positive if it's the same, but when I took biology Heterozygous just meant they carried both the dominant and recessive genes. So they displayed the dominant trait but could also produce offspring with the recessive gene if paired with a Dominant recessive or another Heterozygous. I suppose it would be determined after the animal was bred a certain number of times, and the offspring's coloring tallied up in relation to the others. The whole 'grid' complex, like: Aa + Aa = aa, Aa, Aa, AA. So two Hets, one dominant and a recessive? Correct me if I'm wrong, because someday I would like to get into breeding Leos. xD

I believe that may be exactly right, Landen or Meg would have to help you there because they are the breeders here and Meg has a major in Zoology

 

[Khenut]

In answer to your new question, I'd say it's difficult to determine what exactly the babies will be. You should be able to get at least some in those morphs, if the female is Het like he is. It gets kind of complicated when all the variables are taken into consideration. xD

 

[Geckomaster743]

In answer to your new question, I'd say it's difficult to determine what exactly the babies will be. You should be able to get at least some in those morphs, if the female is Het like he is. It gets kind of complicated when all the variables are taken into consideration. xD

Agreed. When breeders upload videos and i watch them I'm lost after the first 5 min due to them immediately going too If you combine a Het66% Eclipse Double Sunglow ( Example, LOL Not even sure that Exists ) with a Het Eclipse Tremper Atomic 33%

 

[Star1]

Thanks everyone!

 

[LeoLover1]

Hi there! Heterozygous has been explain pretty well. But an animal can only be guaranteed to be het 2 ways.

1. One parent expressed the recessive. So a blizzard parent will produce all offspring which are either het or express the recessive themselves (depending on the other parent). This is where you must trust the person selling you the animal.

2. The animal can be bred to another animal which expresses the recessive (breed a blizzard het to a blizzard) and observe the offspring. But it is a numbers game, and you'd need to breed several offspring. You might never prove the animal is NOT het, but you'd have a 50% chance of proving it IS with each hatchling. In other words, if your animal is het, then about half the babies will be the recessive (blizzards).

The percentages are just a way for breeders to let you know the chances are that certain genes might be carried.

It gets so much more complicated when you're using multiple genes. Especially with ones like Hypos, where it is difficult to tell by looking if they are hypo, or super hypo. The easiest thing to do, if you want consistent results, is to purchase both parents of the morph you want, and breed them for 100% results.