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luizNchristine

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Someone left these at the store...I guess they couldnt take care of them anymore or something...I wont mention the store though...I dont want them to be questioned about it...but I think the guy gave them to me because they arent part of their inventory.... Dont know why anyone would get rid of them. I know I wont...They will make great breeders, I hope. Any ideas on their morphs?

Princess - 50 grams
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Spaz - 44 grams
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Very nice finds, but please don't keep them on sand because they run the risk of impaction on sand.
 
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Double LY

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Looks like they were well cared for. It's amazing what people consider disposable :main_rolleyes: Their loss is most definitely your gain, though. Congrats and enjoy them :main_thumbsup:
 
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BamsMom

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You would be surprised what people dump off at pet stores. I work at a pet food warehouse, we don't even sell animals, we just have an adoption center for small animals through the county humane society and people still dump animals off there. We've even found live fish in bags in the trash can. Grr.

A friend of mine works at a petsmart and she has gotten two beardies and a water dragon from people wanting to get rid of them. But I'm glad the leos found new homes with you! I love happy endings!
 
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luizNchristine

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Thank you for all the comments. But, as far as changing my sand, I will have to think about it. In the two and a half almost three years that Ive have leos Ive never had a problem with the sand. Even when I bought BabyGirl when she was only about three inches long, she didnt have any problems with sand. ButI will consider it. I know I wont change to tile though. I would like my gecko to be moving on something that gives a little resistance when they walk around....to build up their muscles and strength. That, I feel, is how my geckos have remained healthy all this time. Since, in the wild, they do not hae the option of of anything other than sand...

I have seen some people use bark. What are your thoughts on that?

Thanks again for all the great comments....cant wait to see all your leos. I will be having back surgery in exactly a week so for the next few months I MIGHT not be online that much...we'll see.

Luiz
 
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Sand isn't a definate serious thread by all means, but it does increase the risk. I hear normal play ground sand runs a far less risk than "calcium sand" of impaction?
 
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Free is defently the best price. Like said above remove the sand, stay away from any loose substrates for leos. Go with paper towels,newspaper,tiles,or slate rock.
 
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luizNchristine

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The sand Im using right now is "All Living Things Calcium Sand". Its a really fine sand. When I shop for the sand I always check for the brand with the finest, almost dust like, sand. I know what you mean about the other calmcium sands. Ive seen some thick stuff out there that I wouldnt even recommend it to a person I hate, that has reptiles.

Thanks for the insight Paul...I will look into the play ground sand. See if its finer than what Im using right now.


Ill use the newspaper for newly hatched leos. Thats for sure.
 
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luizNchristine said:
The sand Im using right now is "All Living Things Calcium Sand". Its a really fine sand. When I shop for the sand I always check for the brand with the finest, almost dust like, sand. I know what you mean about the other calmcium sands. Ive seen some thick stuff out there that I wouldnt even recommend it to a person I hate, that has reptiles.

Thanks for the insight Paul...I will look into the play ground sand. See if its finer than what Im using right now.


Ill use the newspaper for newly hatched leos. Thats for sure.
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People said it before but all sand is bad. I have seen impaction first hand and it is ugly. Just be careful with play sand. Any way, Amazing find!! Those geckos are very nice!!
 
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Thats one of the "bad" sands. Why would you take the risk? Ok nevermind, I like this forum, and hope Im liked here and am gonna stay off this subject :)
On the other hand the geckos look great good luck with them.
 
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ALGeckos

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The first looks tangerine and the 2nd looks like a super-hypo carrot tail baldy (assuming that that's 15% of the tail, can't tell coz it's cut off). Excellent finds for free! I'm glad they found a better home!

Although sand increases the "risk" of impaction, doesn't necessarily mean it'll cause impaction. As long as the husbandry is correct, use very fine sand (like play sand, not the huge calcium sand), leave a calcium dish available at all times, and you feed in a separate tub (or if you have mealies in a deep dish they can't climb out of at all) you can have a high success rate. But of course, that doesn't mean I'll be switching to sand anytime soon ;)
 
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luizNchristine

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I understand what you all are saying and appreciate the information. Lets move this conversation to the substrate section of the forum. And, as I said before, in the years I have have geckos Ive never had a problem with impaction. If I see one of my leos missing the crickets I will place them in one of the large cricket keeps and put in a few crickets at a time for them. I do this, for sure, every time I feed them meelies and waxworms. I will strongly consider the substrate change....again, thanx for all the insight on this subject.
 
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Double LY

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luizNchristine said:
Thanks for the insight Paul...I will look into the play ground sand. See if its finer than what Im using right now.
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I recommend the Toys R Us playground sand above anything else. We use it for our big beardies and our uro. We tried sand from Lowes and Home Depot, but it wasn't "pretty" and we had to sift it A LOT. The Toys R Us sand is totally fine grain, no large particles and is bright white (like the beaches in Mexico ;) ) It costs $5.99 for a 50 pound bag.
 
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Trace

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luizNchristine said:
Thank you for all the comments. But, as far as changing my sand, I will have to think about it. In the two and a half almost three years that Ive have leos Ive never had a problem with the sand. Even when I bought BabyGirl when she was only about three inches long, she didnt have any problems with sand. ButI will consider it. I know I wont change to tile though. I would like my gecko to be moving on something that gives a little resistance when they walk around....to build up their muscles and strength. That, I feel, is how my geckos have remained healthy all this time. Since, in the wild, they do not hae the option of of anything other than sand...

I have seen some people use bark. What are your thoughts on that?

Thanks again for all the great comments....cant wait to see all your leos. I will be having back surgery in exactly a week so for the next few months I MIGHT not be online that much...we'll see.

Luiz
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I had one of my leo's die from sand impaction it's a very sad death to see. I have been through may substrates not happy with any of them. One day I was in lowes and found slate rock which was in the flooring section it comes in the same size as tile by far it is the best. And it stays nice and warm. And as far as them being on sand in the wild i have read that they are usually in the mountains which have rock and not sand. Please don't put your leo's at risk with sand.
 
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