HELP.about Bitis gabonica spp.

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Help:
Who can tell me how do U differentiate Bitis gabonica gabonica and Bitis gabonica rhinocerous.

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from what i've seen in pictures bitis gabonica gabonica has alot smoother scales than rinocerous. also color is different i'm not positive but the horn might be a little bigger as well.
 
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Gaboon has no enlarged nasal horns.Also, with B. g. gabonica, the dark triangular marking leading back from the eye towards the angle of the mouth is divided.Gabonica is also the largest member of the genus Bitis.Also the world's heaviest viperid,and it has the longest fangs and the highest venom yield of any venomous snake.

I have kept rhinocerous, but never a Gaboon. Ive worked alot with them, and around them. My rodent breeder keeps both species. They really are magnificent creatures.
 

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Reptile_le00man7mm said:
Gaboon has no enlarged nasal horns.Also, with B. g. gabonica, the dark triangular marking leading back from the eye towards the angle of the mouth is divided.Gabonica is also the largest member of the genus Bitis.Also the world's heaviest viperid,and it has the longest fangs and the highest venom yield of any venomous snake.

Micheal, you seem to be a bit confused on your specie names...

Bitis gabonica gabonica = East African Gaboon viper

Bitis gabonica rhinoceros = West African Gaboon viper

Bitis nasicornis = Rhinoseros viper

The scales are not any smoother on either species... The scales are strongly keeled on both the east and west african gaboon...

There are some differences that are pretty noticable at first glance... The West Afican gaboon has one stripe going from the rear of the eye to the back corner of the mouth and the East African gaboon has two... One from the back of the eye to the back corner of the mouth and one from the center of they eye to the center of the upper labials...

The West African gaboon has two large nasal projections and the East African has very under developed or no nasal projections...

Patterns on the West African gaboons seem to be a bit sharper where as the East African gaboons pattern is a bit more rounded or softer looking...

West African gaboons will attain huge sizes... Up to 7 feet long where as the East Africans stay on the smaller side and average sizes around 4 to 5 feet long...

From my personal findings, the East African gaboons sport larger fangs than the West African gaboons even though they do not get as large body wise...

They are also different on the taxonomic level as well and venom composition may be slightly different... The West and East African gaboons might not be closely related as they once were thought to be...

Also, the WAG has
 
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Gregg M said:
I think I can answer this... LOL



Micheal, you seem to be a bit confused on your specie names...

Bitis gabonica gabonica = East African Gaboon viper

Bitis gabonica rhinoceros = West African Gaboon viper

Bitis nasicornis = Rhinoseros viper

The scales are not any smoother on either species... The scales are strongly keeled on both the east and west african gaboon...

There are some differences that are pretty noticable at first glance... The West Afican gaboon has one stripe going from the rear of the eye to the back corner of the mouth and the East African gaboon has two... One from the back of the eye to the back corner of the mouth and one from the center of they eye to the center of the upper labials...

The West African gaboon has two large nasal projections and the East African has very under developed or no nasal projections...

Patterns on the West African gaboons seem to be a bit sharper where as the East African gaboons pattern is a bit more rounded or softer looking...

West African gaboons will attain huge sizes... Up to 7 feet long where as the East Africans stay on the smaller side and average sizes around 4 to 5 feet long...

From my personal findings, the East African gaboons sport larger fangs than the West African gaboons even though they do not get as large body wise...

They are also different on the taxonomic level as well and venom composition may be slightly different... The West and East African gaboons might not be closely related as they once were thought to be...

Also, the WAG has

Thank u, Gregg.
I think I have knew the key to my question.:main_thumbsup: :main_thumbsup: :main_thumbsup: :main_thumbsup:
 
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Gregg M said:
I think I can answer this... LOL



Micheal, you seem to be a bit confused on your specie names...

LOL... I guess you can..:main_rolleyes:

Yes I did get a species name confused...
 

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