HELP !!! WTH is this?

Shadraak

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? head went to go use the bathroom saw him strain a bit and even push his belly to the ground and lift both legs up, and then walk away from this, it's pretty flat, if it's an egg it's infertile and my HE is a SHE as well.. if not i need to know what it is no vets around here open on sat's :(...

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Shadraak

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are you kidding me?? so the one i haven't been following is the female, it wasn't bred the other one was bred out, will a male "submit" to another male and allow to be "tied"?, i have a pic of what it hought is my only famale, coupled with a male RAPTOR, i've had problems sexing this one but everythign i saw and everyone told me says a male hehe.
 

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LOL I'm sorry but this cracked me up.. isn't that a nice surprise? You definitely got a female :) They don't need to be bred to lay eggs.. most females will reabsorb any eggs that their body develops, but occasionally, they will pass them instead, like you have seen :main_yes:
 

Shadraak

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yah i know they will, but didn't expect it out of my Male.... now i'm worried that my F is the male, although i know the one i think is a F i have pictures of it "locked" with a raptor male, so if males will "lock" it's possible if not, i have 2 females. i have pics of cut egg and the "mating" of what it hought was my only female to a diff. male.
 

Shadraak

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ok now i feel bad there's no dispute now, ? head was the one in the breeding pictures, and if this egg was fertile i just killed it is it possible it was infertile anyway with it being "deflated" i'm asked if i have calc supp. which i do always is there anythign i could have done to make them better?

breeding photos: NOTE: this male is his, not either of mine, male is RAPTOR
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current photos (what i thought was the female)
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? head which i thought was the male and was reassured was the female, now i just broke my own heart :(
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Saille

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*giggle* thats pretty crazy. Can you get really good macro shots of their vent and pore areas and post them? Maybe folks can help you sex them better. . .but wait, the egg did that for us! :D (at least for your girly!)
You could still post pics of the "female" if you're unsure and maybe someone can help you sex that one?
 

Shadraak

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*giggle* thats pretty crazy. Can you get really good macro shots of their vent and pore areas and post them? Maybe folks can help you sex them better. . .but wait, the egg did that for us! :D (at least for your girly!)
You could still post pics of the "female" if you're unsure and maybe someone can help you sex that one?

LOL that one i can't hold on to at all :( this one looked so much like a male though UGH :( i'm scared, is it possible that egg would have made it? looked super deflated, they have calcium but i dont know if they're eating it or not, that one shed right before i got them, and is ready to shed again, but now looks really big hehe so i really do feel badly about it all now :(.
 

RampantReptiles

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Sometimes they can be a little deflated but if you put it in an incubator with high humidity and an appropriate temperature they can perk back up.
Check the egg with a flashlight and see if there is a red bullseye, that will tell you that it is fertile. Just make sure when you do this not to change the orientation of the egg. Put a mark on the top of the egg to mark which way is top.
Also might help if the female had laid it in a lay box. If it is a first time female its more than likely she laid a slug/infertile egg.
 

Shadraak

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Sometimes they can be a little deflated but if you put it in an incubator with high humidity and an appropriate temperature they can perk back up.
Check the egg with a flashlight and see if there is a red bullseye, that will tell you that it is fertile. Just make sure when you do this not to change the orientation of the egg. Put a mark on the top of the egg to mark which way is top.
Also might help if the female had laid it in a lay box. If it is a first time female its more than likely she laid a slug/infertile egg.

def. first timer, i'm hoping that maybe it was developing before she was bred, and maybe next few will be ok, this one was always in humid hide before and i ot new ones cause i thought my female wasn't goin in it, and turns out this was the femlae GRRR, so i may put that huge one back in there again but they both get in these new ones just fine, but yeah went right over there and dropped on the poop paper :(, but it stuck tot he PT pretty badly, next time should i just cut that paper towell around it and move it over that way if "she" does it again? here's the funny part, i was mad that the "female" wasn't letting me see her belly for eggs, yet this one was letting me look all the time but was lookign at vent not the belly :(

was bred on may 1st is where the breeding pics came in, so i'm hoping the others will be fertile/better shape/ and be stronger, but with that goo, was just like cream, from what i've seen with slugs with snakes looks the same, if it was fertile wouldn't it have had somethign else in it? i just wanna make sure i didn't kill my first baby of the year.
 

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