Hypos as babies?

Christywoowoo

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So about two weeks ago I hatched my first Leopard gecko. She's a _________ het for Bell albino.

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The first picture is the day she hatched and the second would be about 2 days later.

My question is if there is any way to predict whether or not she will be a hypo

Here are her parents

Mom, Shctb
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Dad, Mack snow bell albino

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Neon Aurora

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Sometimes you can make an educated guess, but not always.

This hatchling turned out to have a pretty decent amount of spotting:
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While this hatchling turned out with none except on the head:
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The bottom one does have lighter bands compared to the top one, so I think that is one indicator. But in my experience, they change quite a lot as they age. I had one tangerine that hatched with really light bands, but began to develop a spotting pattern that I liked. I was hoping it would continue to develop spots, but those spots have all gone away now except one.

I stopped trying to guess on mine and labeled them all genetically in their hatchling bins (IE, everything that may have been a hypo or tangerine was labeled wild type unless it was really super tangerine). Then when they got to be old enough to move into bigger bins (25-30 grams) I changed their labels to include hypos or tangs or whatever because at that age you can basically tell.

Yours looks like it has sort of light bands, so there is a good chance it could have reduced spotting or end up with none at all.
 
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DrCarrotTail

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I would think she's definitely hypo. If your question is - will she have any spots or not then only time will tell. Sometimes crossing lines or breeding unrelated geckos can cause a spot or two to pop up but if both parents have no spots then in general the babies have few or none. You should know once she gets to be about 15-20g and her bands are completely faded :)
 

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Lisa - I just thought I would add that sometimes even when both parents have no spots, the offspring can still have many spots in my experience. I'm not trying to be contradictory or anything, just add my two cents.

here is the thread where I demonstrated my experience with that issue. http://geckoforums.net/f125-morphs-genetics/107245.htm

I do agree that you have a pretty high chance of having little to no spots, but it doesn't always seem to happen that way.
 

Christywoowoo

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Thank you everyone! I'm definitely expecting some spots but I'm pretty excited to see exactly how she turns out. Here is what she looks like now
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Kristi23

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It's always best to wait and see how they look as they grow out. Sometimes those spotty banded animals win out when bred to a super hypo. You may end up getting a variety of babies with little to know spots and others with a lot of spots. Hypo is something best ID'd later on since it isn't always easy to predict right away. It looks like that baby is already getting quite a few spots coming in. That may be all she gets or she may end up with even more.
 

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Of course, as Kristi says, it's impossible to know how it will turn out, but I've found that the early development of quickly disappearing black bands with a scattering of tiny spots usually leads to few or no spots later on.

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Christywoowoo

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It's always best to wait and see how they look as they grow out. Sometimes those spotty banded animals win out when bred to a super hypo. You may end up getting a variety of babies with little to know spots and others with a lot of spots. Hypo is something best ID'd later on since it isn't always easy to predict right away. It looks like that baby is already getting quite a few spots coming in. That may be all she gets or she may end up with even more.

I have to disagree with you on her developing spots being a factor in determining whether or not she will be a hypo.
I own a Hypo tangerine that was bought with many dark developed spots, which then seemed to turn purple and eventually completely faded away leaving her with only two spots on her body.

Here she is
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Kristi23

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I have to disagree with you on her developing spots being a factor in determining whether or not she will be a hypo.
I own a Hypo tangerine that was bought with many dark developed spots, which then seemed to turn purple and eventually completely faded away leaving her with only two spots on her body.

Here she is
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I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with. I said that it's best to ID them later on. I've had some get spots that have faded and I've had some get spots that stayed and increased (all from hypo crosses). I've had bands that never broke up into spots at all. It can be hard to predict unless you've hatched a lot from the pairing already and know what to expect. There is always variety as I mentioned in my post. When breeding hypo to hypo, you should end up with less spots.
 

Christywoowoo

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What I disagreed with was when you noted that she was developing spots and "that may be all she gets or she could get more"

Probably a misunderstanding, but I understood that as she will keep any spots she develops ^^

Thank you all for the help and input

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Kristi23

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Probably just bad wording on my part. Yes, it can lose the spots, it could keep them, or it could gain more. I've had some go either way. There is another thread on here in this sub forum from someone who did a super hypo tangerine x mack snow pairing and you can see that most of the animals ended up with tons of spotting vs the hypo look I would have expected to see on a few. That's why I think it all varies a lot with each pairing and each baby. As you hatch more, you'll be able to have a better idea on what to expect as they age. As a rule, I just tell people to ID they hypo part later on when they're more developed unless they've been breeding awhile and know what to look for.
 

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