I don't know what this is can anybody help.

[Randycooke]

I bought a group of 30 leopard geckos a few months agoThis one was sold to me as a normal.It's marking has changed. It appears to be not normal.

 

[acpart]

Do you have a picture of it from when you got it? Did it ever have yellow coloring? If it was black and white banded when you got it, it is a Mack snow. That's what it looks like now, but it's hard to know exactly without seeing it as a younger hatchling.

Aliza

 

[Neo.Reptiliac]

The colors that it was born with are indeed important. I had some Tremper Albino X SHTCTB crosses that looked like yours for a long time, then they started getting a little yellow and more spots over time. But as it is now it does look like a mack snow.

 

[Wandering Paddle]

it appears to be mack snow. I dont understand why you would acquire 30 leopard geckos and not understand basic morphs...?

 

[Randycooke]

This is what I got.

Thanks for your help!

 

[Randycooke]

I am just starting out with gecko's. I have been breeding Boas for over 5 years. I traded a pair of boas for the adult geckos, which are now having babies. I am just on here to find someone nice to tell me what I have.

 

[Wandering Paddle]

those ^ are pictures of normals.

 

[Randycooke]

I know!That is what they looked like when I got them????

 

[Wandering Paddle]

...and breeding boas and breeding leopard geckos is a very different thing. Im not trying to be mean, which is what you inferred by saying "someone nice" , im trying to understand why you would buy 30 leopard geckos without understanding the genetics. if you have 30 geckos then you obviously plan on breeding, and if you are selling the geckos you should be able to explain the genetics of the babies to the buyer if they inquire.

Did the baby in question have any yellow/orange coloration at the time of purchase...?

 

[Wandering Paddle]

i find it hard to believe that gecko once looked normal. A snow will not look normal at birth due to the axanthic properties of the mack snow mutation. All i can suggest is test breed it to a known non mack snow when it is old enough.

 

[Randycooke]

The photo I uploaded 2nd is the photo that I took when I got them at that age about 3 months ago. The 1st picture that I uploaded is the photo I took just today. It's changing. I understand genetics of animals, but it is not looking like a normal now and I was hoping that someone would be able to tell me what it is as I am not familiar with all of the genetics.
Thanks for your information.

 

[Wandering Paddle]

what/ how often is it being fed? what temperature is it being kept at? There isn't a genetic mutation that causes a "normal" gecko to look "snow". It does look a skinny and small for a gecko over 3 months old. i have geckos that are 2 months old that are much larger.

 

[Neo.Reptiliac]

Do you know who the parents are of this one little gecko in peticular?

 

[Randycooke]

The guy that I got the adults from mis-counted what he had.He sent me 5 babies.I've been unable to reach him to find out what the parents were.I have 2 that are like this.As for feeding and heating.My room is about 85-90.I feed about 5-6 giant mealworm every other day.

 

[reptinut]

My guess would be some sort of line bred snow.

 

[Neo.Reptiliac]

Well I assume that atlease 2 out of those extra 5 are snows.

 

[Randycooke]

The 5 babies he sent me were 2 albino snows, 1 aptor, and the 2??? Ok,Thanks

 

[Randycooke]

I have found out that this baby is 50% het bell albino.He only can remeber one parent.

 

[acpart]

If the baby in question looked just like the picture of the 2 hatchlings you posted then it can't be a Mack snow, because Mack snows (and line bred snows as far as I know) hatch out black and white with no yellow). Sometimes it happens that geckos who are not getting enough to eat or being kept at the right temperature may get a colorless, washed out look. I'm not saying for sure that this is what is happening to this gecko. However, if it is below about 40 grams, it would be best to feed it as much as it can eat daily and to keep mealworms available all the time. The ground temperature on the hot side should be about 92 and there should be a cooler option on the other side of the enclosure. With reptile room temperatures as you describe, this may in fact be the case in the enclosure, but it's worth checking the temps anyway. I think it's worthwhile keeping an eye on one to see how it grows and changes. It would be nice to have a photo log also. YOu may want to check out www.leopardgeckowiki.com as well. It would be great to see another picture of this gecko in a few months.

Aliza

 

[Randycooke]

Ok,Say It's not getting enough to eat.It's possible that it's still normal and the color has washed out.I've checked the heating with a heatgun.They are spot on.