I found out where my mac snow baby came from!

[Matt1851]

So for thoes who are intrested. I had a delima on what parent my mac snow baby came from. I decided to do some researech from the past and see what I could find. I started here on GF. When I first joined GF I asked everyone I posted a picture of the male I bought (my first leo) and the replies I got were he's just a "dark normal" so all this time I thought he was a normal. Well well well I just so happened to stumple across and old youtube video and look at the patterns on my "normal" (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BN2WR2ChsFo&api_format=3&vndel=my_videos) Look anything like this little guy?

well I think it does!

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

I cant see the video...a lot of the time an adult Mack Snow can resemble a normal in many ways. Just look for CT and sometimes spotting will also help ID them...but even then there are no certainties.

 

[Adinar]

Same thing happened with my mack snow. Now that he's just about grown it's easy to tell he's a snow compaired to a normal.

But looking at your pic, that's what ours looked like when he was little. When they start to get their yellow in is when it becomes hard to ID them.

 

[Matt1851]

So since I don't fully understand genetics yet are the normals hatched from this clutch het for mac snow? Or het for murphy patternless? Or not het at all and they will just produce normals?

 

[geckogirl3]

[YT]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BN2WR2ChsFo&api_format=3&vndel=my_videos[/YT]
does this work
Edit- doesnt work for me sorry

 

[Matt1851]

*would the normals that hatched be het for either paternless or mac snow or do normals only reproduce normals?)

 

[sunshinegeckos]

they cant be het for Mack Snow since it is a co domininant trait. I cant answer about the Murphy Patternless

 

[LeopardShade]

So since I don't fully understand genetics yet are the normals hatched from this clutch het for mac snow? Or het for murphy patternless? Or not het at all and they will just produce normals?

Snow is co-dominant, meaning that when combined with other alleles, partially express the trait it codes for. The trait is partially expressed in a heterozygous form (Mack Snow), and can be fully expressed in the homozygous form (Super Snow). Same thing with the Giant genes, as they are co-dominant as well, with a heterozygous form (Giant) and homozygous form (Super Giant). A little confusing, yes, I know.

A gecko cannot be het for a co-dominant trait such as Snow or Giant, a gecko can only be het for a recessive trait such as albino, patternless, blizzard, eclipse, etc. The normals and mack snows hatched from that clutch will all be het for patternless.

 

[Matt1851]

Snow is co-dominant, meaning that when combined with other alleles, partially express the trait it codes for. The trait is partially expressed in a heterozygous form (Mack Snow), and can be fully expressed in the homozygous form (Super Snow). Same thing with the Giant genes, as they are co-dominant as well, with a heterozygous form (Giant) and homozygous form (Super Giant). A little confusing, yes, I know.

A gecko cannot be het for a co-dominant trait such as Snow or Giant, a gecko can only be het for a recessive trait such as albino, patternless, blizzard, eclipse, etc. The normals and mack snows hatched from that clutch will all be het for patternless.

Ahhhhh ok makes sence snow. So I gotta reasearch what is ressive then lol. But ya so what your saying is if I bred the snows or normals to a petternless I'd get 50% normal 50%patternless sort of thing
?

 

[LeopardShade]

Mack Snow het Patternless x Patternless =

25% Normal het Patternless
25% Mack Snow het Patternless
25% Patternless
25% Mack Snow Patternless

Normal het Patternless x Patternless =

50% Normal het Patternless
50% Patternless

 

[Matt1851]

Mack Snow het Patternless x Patternless =

25% Normal het Patternless
25% Mack Snow het Patternless
25% Patternless
25% Mack Snow Patternless

Normal het Patternless x Patternless =

50% Normal het Patternless
50% Patternless

Ahh ok thanks so much! Genetics are so confusing D: its going to take me forever to figure them out lol

 

[LeopardShade]

You'd have a small chance at a pretty cool gecko (Mack Snow Pat) if you bred the Mack Snow het pat offspring (if male) back to the mom. But please, if you are going to breed, do plenty of research and fully prepare yourself for the responsibilities that you will possibly have. Don't just jump into it blindly. You may end up with more babies than you'd like, and babies squeak, bite, and dash like an Olympic sprinter.

 

[Matt1851]

You'd have a small chance at a pretty cool gecko (Mack Snow Pat) if you bred the Mack Snow het pat offspring (if male) back to the mom. But please, if you are going to breed, do plenty of research and fully prepare yourself for the responsibilities that you will possibly have. Don't just jump into it blindly. You may end up with more babies than you'd like, and babies squeak, bite, and dash like an Olympic sprinter.

Iv already bred my babies lol. I bred a mac snow to a patternless and ended up with I'm assuming 3 normal het patternless babies and one mac snow het patternless. Now after what you said I'm hoping that the mac snow is a male so I can breed it back to the mother. If its a female I'm going to breed it back to the father and homefully get some nice babies out of her.