ID This Morph Please?

[LeoGirl575]

Parents are :
Tangerine Tremper Albino (Male) x Tangerine Tremper Albino Enigma (Female)

I only got two eggs out of that pairing, as the female later got sick and had to be euthanized. The two hatchlings I got are very nice. One is an extreme tangerine tremper albino enigma (simply gorgeous!), but the other puzzles me. She looks like a tremper snow. Here are some pics:







How did the mack gene come about in the first place with leopard geckos? Was it a mutation that turned out to be a co-dom trait? If so, is this what this baby has got? Mack snow?

Or is she just abnormally light? There is a site that has a hatchling for sale that looks EXACTLY like her, and it's listed as a tremper snow.

Thanks in advance for help in identifying her!
Steph

P.S. My avatar is a photo of her clutch mate (extreme tang tremper enigma) when she first hatched.

 

[Hankj]

Pictures of the parents? Have you had the parents since they were babies? It could be possible that one is a dark snow.

Or maybe she is just light.

 

[4mb3r]

I cant help out too much, but it's beautiful!

 

[LZRDGRL]

I'm sure the baby is a Mack Snow Tremper. Can you post pics of the parents, please? I would assume the father had MS in him; maybe it's hard to see, as it sometimes is. One of the parents needs to have MS; in Trempers, it's less obvious, so maybe you didn't know when you bought the father. In Enigmas, it's easier to tell whether they're Snow or not, but let's see the parents; maybe we can solve the riddle

It's a beautiful baby! The mother will live on in it and its clutchmate :main_yes:

Chrissy

 

[LeoGirl575]

Here's Daddy :







Mommy:


Thanks!
I love both of the hatchlings - the enigma one is a perfect mix between mom and dad - It touches my heart because I miss my beloved Sofie so much. <3

And I got both of them from the Urban Reptile, so I'm not sure. :S

Thank you so much!

 

[LZRDGRL]

Hmmm... I don't see Mack Snow in either one. Are you sure it cannot be an egg mix-up? The male looks fantastic. That's what my avatar male Nikita looked like when I just got him in spring 2008. He's a bit paler now. Sophie was really pretty, and her Enigma daughter looks just like her, even more orange!

Well, one of them MUST be a Mack Snow, because there is no het Snow, but I just can't see it. Maybe you should breed daddy to a pure Tremper, and if you hatch a Mack Snow again, you definitely know it was daddy! :main_yes:

Chrissy

 

[LeoGirl575]

Nope - no egg mix up. I didn't watch the female lay, but she was the only one left to lay in the tank at the time, and when I found the eggs, she was still in the lay box with them, trying to bury them.

Shouldn't I just breed the dad to a normal and see if I get macks? Wouldn't that be better proof?

Thanks so much!

 

[LeoGirl575]

Oh oops - I read "breed daddy to a pure Mack snow" for some reason. xD Okay, that makes sense!!

 

[The Gecko Person]

There are two possibilities with tremper tangerine x tremper tangerine enigma.
50% tremper tangerine
50% tremper tangerine enigma
The Urban Gecko has TUG snows. I don't know how they are inherited, but if both parents were from there, you could have hets if that is recessive.

 

[LeoGirl575]

What's the difference between a TUG snow and a regular snow? I could never find the answer to that anywhere.
Thanks!

 

[endrien]

What's the difference between a TUG snow and a regular snow? I could never find the answer to that anywhere.
Thanks!

If I remember right, TUG's seem to have less yellow than Mack snows.

 

[StellarExotics]

It's just a line bred snow... TUG's Version. I find there's alot less yellow as well, however so were the orriginal macks... Not all the crap people are calling mack snows now.

Even my mack snow yellowed up some. It wasn't till her 3rd year... very disappointed.