Input into Genetic Wizard (DB)

[gothra]

How shall I input Diablo Blanco in Genetic Wizard? Do I need to break it down to the following?
- Homozygous Tremper albino
- Homozygous Blizzard
- Homozygous Raptor (or eclipse?)

Am I on the right track?
What does het Diablo Blance means? Het for the whole package? So its either all of the above or none? Or shall I think of it as a package of separate genes? i.e. will I get Blizzards or Raptors from Tremper Albino het DB x Tremper Albino het DB?

 

[supperl]

To give you an idea. this image shows you an example of a male DB and a female Tremper Albino het for Blizzard and Eclipse(but a true raptor would need also the patternless stripe gen<-- you won´´t see the difference as the Blizzard is patternfree haha)

 

[gothra]

Thanks Thorsten, that means if I want to input Diablo Blanco into the genetic wizard, I do need to break it up into homozygous blizzard + tremper + eclipse. Then for Blanco het DB, that'll be:
- Homozygous blizzard
- Homozygous tremper
- Het eclipse
Am I correct? Isn't that the same as Blazing Blizzard het Eclipse? So what is the difference between het DB and het eclipse? I think I'm getting all mixed up...lol.

p.s. Shouldn't the example "female Tremper Albino het for Blizzard and Eclipse" be the other way round?
- Homozygous tremper
- Het blizzard
- Het eclipse
?

 

[Sandra]

They usually call het DB whatever is carrying the three genes but not showing the three of them externaly. So an het DB can be...

- Normal het Tremper, Blizzard and Eclipse.
- Tremper het Blizzard and Eclipse.
- Blizzard het Tremper and Eclipse.
- Eclipse het Tremper and Blizzard.
- Tremper Blizzard (blazing blizzard) het Eclipse.
- Blizzard Eclipse het Tremper.
- Tremper Eclipse (RAPTOR) het Blizzard.

Oh, and there's no difference between a Blazing Blizzard het Eclipse and the so called Blanco. Just a commercial name Ron Tremper made up for it. Fortunately the world has refused to use that nomenclature...

And yes, hahaha, you are right Bonnie, Thorsten messed up a little bit.

 

[gothra]

Thanks Sandra, I get it now.

 

[supperl]

ahhh lol yeah I made a mistake *G*G*G*G*G*
THat female is an Eclipse Blizzard het Tremper lol.

And Sandra is right. everything with the genes is het for DB.

BTW normaly if meaning a real Raptor, the bodypattern gen had to be taken in the calculation. Someone told me it is a combo of 2 stripe genes that are acting like a rezessive gen so this would need to be added in the calculation if you want to take exactly what tremper said he made(even though, a red eyed BB will ever be a DB as you can´t realy see if he is a pattystripe I guess<-- breeding would proof it I guess).

 

[Sandra]

BTW normaly if meaning a real Raptor, the bodypattern gen had to be taken in the calculation. Someone told me it is a combo of 2 stripe genes that are acting like a rezessive gen so this would need to be added in the calculation if you want to

The patternless stripe in RAPTORs is made by crossing normal stripes with reverse stripes. About how it works later, I don't know. I wouldn't venture to say it works like a recessive mutation. I think more research should be done on the aberrant morphs. I usually tell people to expect jungles/stripes from these kind of crosses, but I wouldn't put it in the genetics wizard and take the "het patternless stripes" as accurate.

Not that pattern matters much when making DBs.

 

[supperl]

Sandra you are right. I always thought it would have been 1 gen.
A friend told me its a combo of stripe and reverse stripe which normaly wouldn´´t act like rezessive but somehow does act like that from time to time.
I guess it´´s like Jungle. Sometimes it is like Rezessive sometime linebreed.

It´´s true you can´´t realy use it for the genetics wizard but at least it has to be mentioned(okay nor for the DB haha).

BTW that´´s why I love the Raptor* het Raptor pairing, the wide range of possible outcomes is just awsome and so much fun(when eggs are hatching