introducing "lucifer" morphs

rsantoso

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hi all... peace first... lol
first of all, I'm prety sure that this lucifer is not ssbe, because the dam doesn't have snow gene, only the sire have... sorry all, but I can't tell you all the ingredient, because I think that should be my secret project, and I'm not sure that lucifer has same gene with stealth (snow radar enigma) but has similar appearance.. because of that I called this gecko is lucifer gecko...
 

MiamiLeos

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If the female is adult, she could very well be a mack snow. They are sometimes undectable when mature. I feel so so sorry for the poor guy who purchased it.
 

supperl

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Sorry to say this but if you sold it as Lucifer you put your reputation on the line.

I asked for pics of the parents but you don´t want to show of pictures.
Also you say you can´t tell everything as it is your secret project but you say Mack Bell Enigma and Eclipse so you already told us?
The problem is, if you can´t proof the genetics you can´t pretend it is a new morph as you have no proof. Most ppl do testbreedings for years until they release their results.


Thanks
Thorsten
 

richardrojas

PhD. to be
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Madison Wi
Sorry to say this but if you sold it as Lucifer you put your reputation on the line.

I asked for pics of the parents but you don´t want to show of pictures.
Also you say you can´t tell everything as it is your secret project but you say Mack Bell Enigma and Eclipse so you already told us?
The problem is, if you can´t proof the genetics you can´t pretend it is a new morph as you have no proof. Most ppl do testbreedings for years until they release their results.


Thanks
Thorsten
+1
 

kakarrot

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hi all... peace first... lol
first of all, I'm prety sure that this lucifer is not ssbe, because the dam doesn't have snow gene, only the sire have... sorry all, but I can't tell you all the ingredient, because I think that should be my secret project, and I'm not sure that lucifer has same gene with stealth (snow radar enigma) but has similar appearance.. because of that I called this gecko is lucifer gecko...
You said before to me the parents was "Snow het radar x snow enigma het radar".
But in this thread you said different? (bell eclipse x snow het. radar, bell eclipse xsnow enigma het radar)
And now you said it's secret?? :main_huh:

a.k.a. STEALTH :tongue3:
I even doubt this "lucifer" have eclipse in it.:main_no:

Sorry to say this but if you sold it as Lucifer you put your reputation on the line.

I asked for pics of the parents but you don´t want to show of pictures.
Also you say you can´t tell everything as it is your secret project but you say Mack Bell Enigma and Eclipse so you already told us?
The problem is, if you can´t proof the genetics you can´t pretend it is a new morph as you have no proof. Most ppl do testbreedings for years until they release their results.


Thanks
Thorsten
+1
 

richardrojas

PhD. to be
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497
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Madison Wi
I even doubt this "lucifer" have eclipse in it.:main_no:
+1

You can noticed very easily that is not an Eclipse. First it doesn't have a white nose second all the super snow eclipse that I have seen they have all white legs and the white of the nose run a bit closer to the eyes. Maybe he can sell it as a "Lucifer" in his country but here we know the true!!!!!! Totally a Scam!!!!! :main_no:
 

SeyrenEremes

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Im better buy from breeder with good reputation for better information & no breeder with good reputation will rename morp without selective breeding
 

kakarrot

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You can noticed very easily that is not an Eclipse. First it doesn't have a white nose second all the super snow eclipse that I have seen they have all white legs and the white of the nose run a bit closer to the eyes. Maybe he can sell it as a "Lucifer" in his country but here we know the true!!!!!! Totally a Scam!!!!! :main_no:
Right, I mean I doubt that the parents are het radar.

I and some friends in Indonesia already warned him that this is SSBE and not a new morph.
But he insist. :main_rolleyes:

No it doesnt. The pigment in the eyes is from the super snow :main_rolleyes:.
Very true :main_rolleyes:
 

kejapkejap

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my MSbell enigma's eye looks just like this... didn't it common to have eye like this, when bell and enigma meet???
 

norin radd

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manila,philippines
Correction... it IS a Super Snow Bell Enigma.

like this???.....
supsnowbellre2.jpg


supsnowbellre1.jpg

...or like this???...

sbcloseup2.jpg


snowbell.jpg

:D:D:D
 

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