license's for "hot herp's"

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chad ramsey

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hey ya'll my name is chad and i am doing a persuasive essay on why it's illegal to keep hot herp's in utah. you can't even apply for a license. all my life i've wanted to keep and possibly breed hot herp's. i know that in some states it isn't even required to have a license. And if it's illegal to keep hot herp's then why can we keep hog's i've read that they are about as venomous as eyelash viper's i've also seen the effects that there venom has on an adult man's arm. i was quite impressed with how swollen and tender it got. i'm just trying to get some opinions on like what are the laws in some of your states and stuff like that. your input is greatly appreciated


thanks again,
chad ramsey
 
Gregg M

Gregg M

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Hi Chad,
I first want to clear up that Hognoses are not as venomous as an eyelash viper... Eyelash vipers are quite toxic and have a very reliable delivery system (hollow front hinged fangs) where as hognoses have a poor delivery (rear grooved fangs) and their saliva is not very toxic... They both have different toxicity...

I know about the pictures you are talking about and I can tell you that in that case the reaction was a very extream reaction and is not the norm...

Now in my state it is illegal to keep hot unless you are permitted... Recent laws have been passed that it is no longer legal to aquire new animals and if you are a permit holder you are allowed to keep what you have but once they pass, they can not be replaced... It sucks... The laws are passed mostly because of the actions of a few irresponsible keepers... Fear and lack of education is what causes the knee jerk reaction to just ban things and have laws passed that really dont make sence when you can regulate it instead...

See, the thing is is that keepers are going to keep what they want anyway even if it is against the law and the state now has no record of who has what... If they regulated the hobby with a permit system or kept the one that was already in place, they would know who has what and where... It is just a step in the wrong direction to make it illegal and place bans...

I think every state should have a system like Fl... It is a great system that works and allows people to keep what they want as long as they work for it...
 
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okapi

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Here in Ky all venomous reptiles, native herps, and constricting snakes over 8ft are illegal. The only exception to hot herps is hogs. Alligators and their relatives are illegal as well. But that doesnt stop pet stores from selling what they shouldnt. As long as the snake being sold is under 8ft at the time of the sale, it is legal, but as soon as it reaches 8ft its illegal. Pet stores around here used to sell alligators but they all stopped within the past 10 years. I work at an animal shelter and in the last three years my shelter had 4 alligators, 1 large burm, and some native species. Even though native species are illegal, pet stores around here sell red eared sliders, box turtles, painted turtles, and bullfrogs. To find out more info about reptile laws, run a search for animal laws in any state. Some of my states laws that dont have to do with reptiles are pretty funny, like common sense... which is lacking in most people ive noticed.
 
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