Mac snow raptor question
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Its easiest to tell them apart as babies. A mack raptor will have some white patches on it when it hatches where as a raptor or tremper with no snow in it will have a tint of yellow instead and not show any white. After they have grown out its hard to tell them apart.
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Hope that helps :main_thumbsup:
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Snow
Not snow
Not snow
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Why do they call them snow? Looks nothing like snow some of the morph names don't make sense to me.
I've googles about noobs but does someone have a good link or thread to explain all these names and how to decode a morph?
Bell?
Het?
Mack?
So many morphs it's crazy.
I've googles about noobs but does someone have a good link or thread to explain all these names and how to decode a morph?
Bell?
Het?
Mack?
So many morphs it's crazy.
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Macks will have virtually no CT, tend to retain more of the white neck band, more speckled legs, and hatchling ID is best
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Thank you both. The link is great explains a lot and shows pics. Sorry if I'm dumb. But the Sunglow bell and Tremper look alike to me almost the same. And the you throw in a hypo tangerine and I don't know what differences to look for.
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Hypo tangerine is non albino. Bell and Tremper are two albino strains that are not compatible and shouldn't be crossed.
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I’m no expert but took a genetics course or two once upon a time in college and have been researching gecko genetics for a while so I’m gonna test my knowledge and hopefully someone more expert will agree with, correct or clarify my answer 
The three types of albino (Bell, Tremper and Rainwater) are completely different alleles. This means they are located at different places on genes and do not affect one another, which is probably what the "not compatible" comment meant. The snow lines are similar except they're generally co-dominant traits and one of the snow lines is line bred and not located at a single allele. I’m focusing on the relative simplicity of the recessive albino traits in my explanation here since it makes things a bit less complicated. In general, the same logic is behind why you shouldn’t mix the snow lines.
So say you breed a Bell albino to a Tremper albino. Assuming there are no other hidden traits, all offspring will be normal colored geckos that have recessive genes for both Bell and Tremper. In other words the offspring of such a pairing would be 100% het, or heterozygous for both Bell and Tremper. This would mean that they definitely possess a recessive gene for both even thought they look normal. If you then took that offspring and bred it to something else you would have a hard time knowing which type of albino you had. This essentially serves no purpose and “muddies” the genetics by making it more difficult for anyone who purchases the offspring of such a pairing to figure out what morph they have created in the future.
This is one reason that breeders prize “pure” strains – or a gecko that has one recessive gene or no recessive genes and is heterozygous for no other known genes. These animals are valuable in “unmuddying” genetic waters by serving as controls when they are paired with a gecko that has an unknown or questionable genetic background. Before beginning a long term project some breeders “prove out” their foundation stock or in other words, they will check and double check that there are no hidden recessive genes in the geckos they begin with in order to ensure they won’t have recessive traits that they didn’t plan on popping up here and there somewhere down the line.
Make sense? Hope it helps!
The three types of albino (Bell, Tremper and Rainwater) are completely different alleles. This means they are located at different places on genes and do not affect one another, which is probably what the "not compatible" comment meant. The snow lines are similar except they're generally co-dominant traits and one of the snow lines is line bred and not located at a single allele. I’m focusing on the relative simplicity of the recessive albino traits in my explanation here since it makes things a bit less complicated. In general, the same logic is behind why you shouldn’t mix the snow lines.
So say you breed a Bell albino to a Tremper albino. Assuming there are no other hidden traits, all offspring will be normal colored geckos that have recessive genes for both Bell and Tremper. In other words the offspring of such a pairing would be 100% het, or heterozygous for both Bell and Tremper. This would mean that they definitely possess a recessive gene for both even thought they look normal. If you then took that offspring and bred it to something else you would have a hard time knowing which type of albino you had. This essentially serves no purpose and “muddies” the genetics by making it more difficult for anyone who purchases the offspring of such a pairing to figure out what morph they have created in the future.
This is one reason that breeders prize “pure” strains – or a gecko that has one recessive gene or no recessive genes and is heterozygous for no other known genes. These animals are valuable in “unmuddying” genetic waters by serving as controls when they are paired with a gecko that has an unknown or questionable genetic background. Before beginning a long term project some breeders “prove out” their foundation stock or in other words, they will check and double check that there are no hidden recessive genes in the geckos they begin with in order to ensure they won’t have recessive traits that they didn’t plan on popping up here and there somewhere down the line.
Make sense? Hope it helps!
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