mack snow raptors

roger

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I have a few question?
1- what morphs are combined to get a mack snow raptor?
2-If u have 1 ruby eyed and 1 snake eyes what percentage of the hatchlings would come out red eyed?
3 what price are the mack snow raptors going for??
 

Gazz

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I have a few question?
1- what morphs are combined to get a mack snow raptor?
2-If u have 1 ruby eyed and 1 snake eyes what percentage of the hatchlings

1-Easy way.

FIRST.

Talbino super snow X Talbino eclipse patternless striped = .

100%Talbino snow SPLIT Super snow/HET Eclipse.
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THEN.

Talbino snow SPLIT Super snow/HET Eclipse X Talbino snow SPLIT Super snow/HET Eclipse = .

Talbino normal Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse normal.
Talbino aberrant Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse aberrant.
Talbino hyper aberrant Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse hyper aberrant.
Talbino striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse striped.
Talbino reverse striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse reverse striped.
Talbino patternless striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse patternless striped-(RAPTOR).
Talbino snow SPLIT Super snow/Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse snow SPLIT Super snow.
Talbino snow aberrant SPLIT Super snow/Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse snow aberrant SPLIT Super snow.
Talbino snow hyper aberrant SPLIT Super snow/Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse snow hyper aberrant SPLIT Super snow.
Talbino snow striped SPLIT Super snow/Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse snow striped SPLIT Super snow.
Talbino snow reverse striped SPLIT Super snow/Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse snow reverse striped SPLIT Super snow.
Talbino snow patternless striped SPLIT Super snow/Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse snow patternless striped SPLIT Super snow-(Snow RAPTOR).
Talbino super snow Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse super snow.
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2-The percent of Eclipse expressed in a leo cant be predicted.You can breed two full Eclipse eyed leo's together and still get partial Eclipse eyed offspring.Same as You can breed two partial Eclipse eyed leo's together and still get Eclipse eyed offspring.So you do pass the Eclipse trait on as it is recessive.But the amount of iris black is hit ot miss.
 
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Gazz

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HHmm I thought it was as simple as a mack snow X raptor pairing

Snow SPLIT Super snow X Talbino eclipse patternless striped = .

Normal HET Talbino,Eclipse.
Snow SPLIT Super snow/HET Talbino,Eclipse.

Then back breed the Snow SPLIT Super snow/HET Talbino,Eclipse.

Will give you Snow RAPTOR but the outcome will be longer due to breeding HET Talbino,Eclipse to HET Talbino,Eclipse.
 

Taquiq

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mack snow x raptor will give you:
50% - mack snow het eclipse het tremper
50% - normal het eclipse het tremper

Well actually the Patternless Stripe in RAPTOR goes with the Tremper Eclipse so it would technically be het RAPTOR. Breed 2 Mack Snow het RAPTOR's together and you get some Mack Snow RAPTOR's.
 

Wandering Paddle

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Well actually the Patternless Stripe in RAPTOR goes with the Tremper Eclipse so it would technically be het RAPTOR. Breed 2 Mack Snow het RAPTOR's together and you get some Mack Snow RAPTOR's.

Generally, that isnt how it works. Patternless stripe is very unpredictable in many lines. It is generally thought to be the expression of both the stripe and reverse stripe patterns together. Notice in Gazz's post how he has listed all of the stripe and reverse stripe outcomes.

And saying something is het raptor is misleading to noobs. it suggests that breeding 2 het raptor animals together is going to produce:
25% raptor
75% normal 66.6% het raptor
but this isnt the case, it produces:

25% - Normal HET Tremper Albino, Eclipse
12.5% - Normal HET Tremper Albino
12.5% - Normal HET Eclipse
12.5% - Eclipse HET Tremper Albino
12.5% - Tremper Albino HET Eclipse
6.25% - Eclipse
6.25% - Tremper Albino
6.25% - Tremper Albino Eclipse (raptor)
6.25%- Normal
also, the patterns on these offspring could potentially include banded, jungle, stripe, reverse stripe, and patternless stripe...


stripe genetics in general are a bit weird. They are all obviously recessive, but not simple recessive...
 
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BSM

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I don't understand what SPLIT means.

only one copy is passed on for example super snow has two copies of lets say BB when bred to a normal you get only 1 B passed on.
 

Gazz

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I don't understand what SPLIT means.

SPLIT Just means HET.As a MAC Snow is a visual HET for Super snow.

I reconize snow in two lines.Snow SPLIT Super snow-AKA-(MAC) that is Codominant.And [1C]/[2C]Snow-AKA-(TUG/GEM) that are both dominant.But coz of the fact a Snow SPLIT Super snow X [1C]/[2C]Snow result in super snow offspring is why i say SPLIT rather than HET.As there is some kind of link between the snow that we don't understand yet or maybe never will.
 

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