mack snow striped x murphy patternless carrottail

sauroid

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what would i get if i breed my MS striped with my Murphy patty CT? pls help. thanks.:)
 

Okee Reps

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Um not sure if that's a good combo but you'd get at best Jungle-ish Mack Snows het Patty and a bunch of normal type stuff het Patty.
 

Golden Gate Geckos

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Since Macks are co-dominant, you would get around 50% snows and 50% normals... all would be heterozygous for Murphy patternless, which is a recessive trait.
 

Halley

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50% Mack, het Patty
50% Normal, het Patty

Some of these might have some jungle influence like James said earlier.
 

shadowx362

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i thought if i cross a mack snow to a patty i'd get MS patties?

you would then have to breed the babies back to each other( Mack het pattyX mack het patty) and you would get

25% normals %66 het /patty's
50% mack snow 66% het patty/mack snow patty's
25% mack super snow 66% het patty/ Mack super snow patty
or
you can breed a mack offspring to the patty and get

50% normals %66 het patty /patty's
50% mack snow 66% het patty/mack snow patty's
the / means they could be patty's instead of 66% het patty because het X het gives you a 66% chance of it being het .
a little confusing, but the bottom line just breed a mack het patty offspring to another and you will get some or a mack het patty to the patty
 
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sauroid

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you would then have to breed the babies back to each other( Mack het pattyX mack het patty) and you would get

25% normals %66 het /patty's
50% mack snow 66% het patty/mack snow patty's
25% mack super snow 66% het patty/ Mack super snow patty
or
you can breed a mack offspring to the patty and get

50% normals %66 het patty /patty's
50% mack snow 66% het patty/mack snow patty's
the / means they could be patty's instead of 66% het patty because het X het gives you a 66% chance of it being het .
a little confusing, but the bottom line just breed a mack het patty offspring to another and you will get some or a mack het patty to the patty
so i have to breed the second gen offspring to each other inorder to produce pattys, MS pattys, and MSS pattys on the third generation? (wow i didnt know i would get super snows on the second and third generation :D)
 

boywonder

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you would then have to breed the babies back to each other( Mack het pattyX mack het patty) and you would get

25% normals %66 het /patty's
50% mack snow 66% het patty/mack snow patty's
25% mack super snow 66% het patty/ Mack super snow patty
or
you can breed a mack offspring to the patty and get

50% normals %66 het patty /patty's
50% mack snow 66% het patty/mack snow patty's
the / means they could be patty's instead of 66% het patty because het X het gives you a 66% chance of it being het .
a little confusing, but the bottom line just breed a mack het patty offspring to another and you will get some or a mack het patty to the patty

an easier explanation would be
if you breed the mack snow het patty offspring to the patty parent you could get
25% normals 100% het patty
25% macks 100% het patty
25% pattys
25% mack patty's


or if you bred two mack het patty siblings together you could get
12.5% normals 66% het patty
25% mack 66% het patty
12.5% super mack snow 66% het patty
12.5% patty's
25% mack patty's
12.5% super mack snow patty's (nice)

all the percentages are per egg, you could get none of what you want all season or every egg could be the morph you're aiming to produce
 

sauroid

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an easier explanation would be
if you breed the mack snow het patty offspring to the patty parent you could get
25% normals 100% het patty
25% macks 100% het patty
25% pattys
25% mack patty's


or if you bred two mack het patty siblings together you could get
12.5% normals 66% het patty
25% mack 66% het patty
12.5% super mack snow 66% het patty
12.5% patty's
25% mack patty's
12.5% super mack snow patty's (nice)

all the percentages are per egg, you could get none of what you want all season or every egg could be the morph you're aiming to produce
AWESOME!
then i wouldn't really have to wait for the third generation to produce the ones i want. thanks everyone. :)
 

boywonder

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the trouble is that you're not guarentee't to get any snow het patty's at all, they could end up all normals het patty, and if you did hatch some macks you'd need to raise them up big enough to sex because you'll need a pair that are mack het patty to make mack/super snow patty's, don't let it put you off though, well worth trying as ss patty's are stunning
 

sauroid

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i suppose my ultimate goal now in this breeding project is to produce MSS pattys. i hope someone could post pics of their MSS pattys...
again, thanks all.
 

sauroid

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if i want to add the rainwater factor to produce the MSS patty rainwater, how do i go about doing it? is it as simple as mating a MSS patty to a RW albino?
 

boywonder

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if you wanted to get rainwater into the mix it means buying one, and depending on which your male is would sway which way you should go, is your mack male and your patty female?
 

boywonder

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i'd be tempted to buy yourself a rainwater (las vegas) murphy patternless or better yet a rainwater snow patty female and breed your male with both females

your male to a rainwater patty would get you
50% mack snows het rainwater and patty
50% normal het rainwater and patty

breed two mack offspring together for
6.25% normal poss het patty poss het rainwater
12.5% mack snow poss het patty poss het rainwater
6.25% mack super snow poss het patty poss het rainwater
6.25% rainwater poss het patty
12.5% mack snow rainwater poss het patty
6.25% mack super snow rainwater poss het patty
6.25% patty het rainwater
12.5% mack snow patty het rainwater
6.25% mack super snow patty het rainwater
6.25%rainwater patty
12.5% mack snow rainwater patty
6.25% mack super snow rainwater patty (nice)

if you can't get a rainwater patty or mack rainwater patty and have to get a straight albino may i sugest a bell over a rainwater as nobody has produced patternless bells as far as i'm aware and if you're starting from scratch the odds are the same for either strain of albino (1 in 32 ) for a patternless super snow bell from triple het macks
 

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