Mealworms safety revisted

Moe

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Types of Gecko Food
The most common feeding insects are crickets - either black or brown, meal worms and wax worms. Large meal worms, also called super worms, are sometimes fed, as are locusts and roaches.Meal worms are generally considered a poor choice for staple food, since they have a large amount of chitin in their bodies. This can be reduced to some degree by offering primarily meal worms which have recently shed and have not yet built their chitin levels back up.
Wax worms are very fatty, which can lead to an obese gecko if fed as a staple. However, wax worms make excellent treats, and can be used to get a sick lizard back into condition again, as well as for fattening breeding females. If you've been feeding wax worms and notice that your gecko is showing signs of fatness, simply reduce or eliminate them until an appropriate weight has been reached.
Locusts are less noisy than crickets but harder to find. They're also much more expensive in most cases. Just like crickets, they can be bred at home, and they have similar nutritional content, making it important to dust or gut load them.
Roaches are becoming more commonly used as reptile food, due to their extreme prolificness and easy maintenance of colonies. They can be kept at home and have a high nutritional content, but care must be taken to avoid escapes. A line of petroleum jelly along the rim of the container can keep them from climbing out, or you can choose roaches that are unable to climb sheer surfaces.
Feed your geckos roaches no longer than three quarters of an inch (about two centimeters)
and remember to gut load them before feeding. If you feed roaches, remember that the ones most commonly used as reptile food are tropical species incapable of creating a home infestation. They can be ordered through an online herp supplier, or found at some pet stores, though they remain uncommon.
Other treats that will offer the geckos different nutrients and a little variation are silkworms, butter worms and baby mice, as well as tomato hornworm larva.
Some geckos will take only live mice, while others will accept pre-killed ones with no problems. Offer these and other snacks in moderation, since they are much higher in calories than a cricket. You can be sure that your geckos will react with enthusiasm, however.
Source(s):
We are Leopard Gecko enthusiasts who were tired of finding incomplete information about our pet Geckos. We enlisted the help of some serious gecko enthusiasts,breeders,owners, and veterinarians who helped us compile information for people who just wanted to know how to take care of their Leopard Geckos knowledgeably and safely.

Please visit our website http://www.theultimateleopardgeckomanual… to learn everything you need to
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* 11 months ago




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T-ReXx

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Types of Gecko Food
The most common feeding insects are crickets - either black or brown, meal worms and wax worms. Large meal worms, also called super worms, are sometimes fed, as are locusts and roaches.Meal worms are generally considered a poor choice for staple food, since they have a large amount of chitin in their bodies. This can be reduced to some degree by offering primarily meal worms which have recently shed and have not yet built their chitin levels back up.
Wax worms are very fatty, which can lead to an obese gecko if fed as a staple. However, wax worms make excellent treats, and can be used to get a sick lizard back into condition again, as well as for fattening breeding females. If you've been feeding wax worms and notice that your gecko is showing signs of fatness, simply reduce or eliminate them until an appropriate weight has been reached.
Locusts are less noisy than crickets but harder to find. They're also much more expensive in most cases. Just like crickets, they can be bred at home, and they have similar nutritional content, making it important to dust or gut load them.
Roaches are becoming more commonly used as reptile food, due to their extreme prolificness and easy maintenance of colonies. They can be kept at home and have a high nutritional content, but care must be taken to avoid escapes. A line of petroleum jelly along the rim of the container can keep them from climbing out, or you can choose roaches that are unable to climb sheer surfaces.
Feed your geckos roaches no longer than three quarters of an inch (about two centimeters)
and remember to gut load them before feeding. If you feed roaches, remember that the ones most commonly used as reptile food are tropical species incapable of creating a home infestation. They can be ordered through an online herp supplier, or found at some pet stores, though they remain uncommon.
Other treats that will offer the geckos different nutrients and a little variation are silkworms, butter worms and baby mice, as well as tomato hornworm larva.
Some geckos will take only live mice, while others will accept pre-killed ones with no problems. Offer these and other snacks in moderation, since they are much higher in calories than a cricket. You can be sure that your geckos will react with enthusiasm, however.
Source(s):
We are Leopard Gecko enthusiasts who were tired of finding incomplete information about our pet Geckos. We enlisted the help of some serious gecko enthusiasts,breeders,owners, and veterinarians who helped us compile information for people who just wanted to know how to take care of their Leopard Geckos knowledgeably and safely.

Please visit our website http://www.theultimateleopardgeckomanual… to learn everything you need to
know and to sign up for a FREE mini course on Leopard Geckos!

* 11 months ago




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First of all, I wouldn't trust anything from Yahoo answers, most of it is complete bull.

Many experienced breeders feed both mealworms and super worms as a staple for leopard gecko diets for YEARS and they do absolutely fine. In fact, Ron Tremper, pretty much the Godfather of leopard geckos, has been feeding a diet solely of mealworms for over 3 decades. I personally have fed a diet of mealworms to leopard geckos for over 10 years of breeding without a single health problem related to the feeders. The point is that, yes, if you buy crappy pet store mealworms and feed them directly to the geckos then you will have problems. The important thing is to gutload your feeders properly and supplement them accordingly.

Crickets in fact, have been documented as known carriers of pinworms and other reptile parasites, which is part of the reason I do not feed them to any of my animals.

Super worms are not large mealworms, they are a different species, the larval form of a large tropical beetle.

Roaches make an excellent prey item, no complaints about them at all.

Mice are a horrible thing to feed to leopard geckos. They are extremely high in fat content and have little calcium. Leopard geckos are insectivorous by nature and feeding them mice is the equivalent of you eating a diet based on hotdogs and Doritos.

No matter what prey species you feed, what is most important is to PROPERLY gut load them beforehand.

The chitin levels of meal or super worms are completely safe for leopard geckos, and there is no factual evidence to show that feeding a diet of properly gut loaded and supplemented examples of either species can cause any sort of health problem.

The chitin thing is an old and often brought up, MYTH.
 

fl_orchidslave

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I have looked at that link once before. Once. It wasn't worth it to me, personally, to waste the time sifting thru it for some good information. Once was enough. Just my opinion....
 

leogecko88

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with using mealworms as a staple feeder. I have fed an almost exclusive diet of mealworms to one of my leos for over a year, and she is in excellent health.
 

Jordan

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oh man Moe, why....

are you trying to prove us wrong for what everyone has said in your other posts about feeders? ... just believe us what we have said... feed your gecko mealworms.
 

Imperial Geckos

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Types of Gecko Food
The most common feeding insects are crickets - either black or brown, meal worms and wax worms. Large meal worms, also called super worms, are sometimes fed, as are locusts and roaches.Meal worms are generally considered a poor choice for staple food, since they have a large amount of chitin in their bodies. This can be reduced to some degree by offering primarily meal worms which have recently shed and have not yet built their chitin levels back up.
Wax worms are very fatty, which can lead to an obese gecko if fed as a staple. However, wax worms make excellent treats, and can be used to get a sick lizard back into condition again, as well as for fattening breeding females. If you've been feeding wax worms and notice that your gecko is showing signs of fatness, simply reduce or eliminate them until an appropriate weight has been reached.
Locusts are less noisy than crickets but harder to find. They're also much more expensive in most cases. Just like crickets, they can be bred at home, and they have similar nutritional content, making it important to dust or gut load them.
Roaches are becoming more commonly used as reptile food, due to their extreme prolificness and easy maintenance of colonies. They can be kept at home and have a high nutritional content, but care must be taken to avoid escapes. A line of petroleum jelly along the rim of the container can keep them from climbing out, or you can choose roaches that are unable to climb sheer surfaces.
Feed your geckos roaches no longer than three quarters of an inch (about two centimeters)
and remember to gut load them before feeding. If you feed roaches, remember that the ones most commonly used as reptile food are tropical species incapable of creating a home infestation. They can be ordered through an online herp supplier, or found at some pet stores, though they remain uncommon.
Other treats that will offer the geckos different nutrients and a little variation are silkworms, butter worms and baby mice, as well as tomato hornworm larva.
Some geckos will take only live mice, while others will accept pre-killed ones with no problems. Offer these and other snacks in moderation, since they are much higher in calories than a cricket. You can be sure that your geckos will react with enthusiasm, however.
Source(s):
We are Leopard Gecko enthusiasts who were tired of finding incomplete information about our pet Geckos. We enlisted the help of some serious gecko enthusiasts,breeders,owners, and veterinarians who helped us compile information for people who just wanted to know how to take care of their Leopard Geckos knowledgeably and safely.

Please visit our website http://www.theultimateleopardgeckomanual… to learn everything you need to
know and to sign up for a FREE mini course on Leopard Geckos!

* 11 months ago




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I just think this a poor attempt to "Advertise" a website with tons of usual information, but obviously by the info you have posted on this thread about mealworms, i would not find any single once of information from your website valid.

I feed all my geckos mealworms and Zophobas morio larvae, aka Superworms, and have never had a problems. Can you please tell me what problems YOU have come across while using Mealworms/Supers as a staple diet? Where have you come up with your conclusions?
 

ZooKeeperKarin

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oh man Moe, why....

are you trying to prove us wrong for what everyone has said in your other posts about feeders? ... just believe us what we have said... feed your gecko mealworms.

My thoughts exactly, I just didn't want to be the first to speak up. lol
I came to this forum needing to learn a great deal about gecko care, feeding, breeding, etc. Because of these people, I have had my first SUCCESSFUL season of breeding. I have cared for them, bred them and hatched them out, not to mention learn to raise colonies of mealworms, superworms and crickets. Many of the people here have been doing it for years and know what they're talking about. I wouldn't have gotten as far as I have by getting the wrong advice.
I'm not understanding why you're flip-flopping your beliefs either. The other day you were deadset against mealworms, but then in a post 5 hours later you mentioned maybe setting up your own colony. Then went back to being against them.
You asked for our advice... take it or leave it. But please stop arguing with us. :main_no:
 

gothra

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Nothing wrong with feeding mealworms; but I personally don't think mealworms are the best food source available for your gecko. It is, however, the easiest food to deal with for the owner. Variety is the best, a gecko will not be able to get all nutrients from just one single feeder; and I would feed more crickets and roaches over mealworms or superworms. Silkworms and phoenix worms are good too.
 

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