morph a x morph b = death?!?!?

[Baoh]

I have an Ember. Despite internet rumor, it lives.

 

[LeapinLizards]

Believe me Paco, I have spoken to Brian Russo a couple times about this subject, as he lives north of me here in Oregon. He has a great Ember project going, has produced some beautiful animals, and will be continuing to do so this season. In speaking to him, he explained of his RAPTOR het Embers produced this year his numbers were 13 successful, and 1 failure to thrive. In 2009-2010 he should have a very strong line due to the outcrossing that he's done.

The Ember has been something I've been looking into for some time now. I really hope Garrick comes on and can explain his experience with the morph. I hope to get Brian on here as well

 

[paulnj]

Heather, 3 of those raptor het ember reside in my rack and they are extremely nice and quite healthy. Actually, 2 are getting ready to lay:main_thumbsup:

 

[LeapinLizards]

Thats what I heard last time I talked to Brian, Paul You know I've got a good Ember project of my own beginning this year.

The even COOLER thing about Brian's Ember female - this was her first year laying...7 clutches, only one baby failed to thrive. That right there proves the Ember to not be fatal Quite the opposite!

 

[CrestedGecko.com]

I just wanted to update everyone on my ember project. I bred raptor x patternless albino several years ago and produced banded albinos that were het for raptor and patternless. I bred those together and produced many, many babies from them- albinos, raptors, patternless albinos, and embers. Some of the embers, and a few banded raptors came out with larger than normal "bug eyes". They feed well and act competely normal, they just look odd. I'm not sure why these geckos turn out like this. I have also produced a number of perfect embers and snake eye embers. In fact, I have a 1.4 group of them breeding right now, and a male snake eye ember breeding a group of patternless albino possible het embers, too. I have not noticed an unusual amount of eggs going bad or babies dying shortly after hatching, or anything like that. There's definitely not a fatal gene involved. The attached photo is one of my adult ember females. My hope is that the "bug eye" problem stays to a minimum. It's possible I may have to do some outcrossing to remove that gene.

I can also give a little input on the patternless amel fat tail project. I have an Urban Gecko line het patternless male. I bred him to 9 amel females last year and didn't hatch a single baby. I got plenty of eggs, most of which looked good at first. I'm trying it again this year, but with only 3 amel females. I don't want to waste that many female's production on something until I know it will work. I'll post updates when/if I have any.

Thanks!

Garrick

 

[LeapinLizards]

I have a question for ya Garrick (BTW, thank you for coming on and clearing that up )...

How closely related were your lines in producing the Ember - You T.Patty lines and the RAPTOR lines? Could it be a problem that out crossing could largely if not completely clear up?

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Garrick, thank you sooooo much for making your post! I think the Embers are one of the loveliest morphs out there today!

 

[daniellebluetoo]

can we see the "bug eyed' geckos

that sounds kinda cute!