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arachboy

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Hi guys.I was a bit confused with the outcome of this pairing.Comments would be a great help....thanks

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cute babies
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hi!
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number 1
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number 2
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Taquiq

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Is dad a Super Snow Enigma? She is probably Eclipse too, because the red eyes of the babies. Mom is probably het Eclipse.
 
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kevinb

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Very cute babies!

1.0 High Yellow Jungle "Bruce"
0.1 Mack Snow Tremper Albino "Ava"
0.1 Rainwater Patternless "Pita"
1.0 Albino Checkered Garter "Herbert II"
0.0.1 Common Garter "Lucile"
0.0.1 Eastern Milksnake "Tiffany"
 

Gazz

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Dad/-Snow enigma HET Balbino.
Mum/-Balbino normal.

Babys/-Balbino snow enigma, Due to the fact the babys are snow the eye trait, Is more likely Tinted eye not Eclipse eye. The eyes may also appear brighter due to them being hatchlings.
 

tiedxupxinxknots

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Dad/-Snow enigma HET Balbino.
Mum/-Balbino normal.

Babys/-Balbino snow enigma, Due to the fact the babys are snow the eye trait, Is more likely Tinted eye not Eclipse eye. The eyes may also appear brighter due to them being hatchlings.

I thiink the mom is a snow bell, because the babies have full red eyes, thus meaning both perents have some snow genes in them, or else the babies would have regular eyes, so they are probably super snow bell enigmas c:
 

RampantReptiles

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Dad/-Snow enigma HET Balbino.
Mum/-Balbino normal.

Babys/-Balbino snow enigma, Due to the fact the babys are snow the eye trait, Is more likely Tinted eye not Eclipse eye. The eyes may also appear brighter due to them being hatchlings.

This is correct.

The dad is definitely not Super snow, you can see faint bands on his body. The babies are also not super snow.
 

Taquiq

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I thiink the mom is a snow bell, because the babies have full red eyes, thus meaning both perents have some snow genes in them, or else the babies would have regular eyes, so they are probably super snow bell enigmas c:

The Snow gene does not make red eyes, Albinos combined with Eclipses do.
 

Landen

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two scenario's.....


snow enigma het eclipse X albino het eclipse - not sure if that's a bell or a darker tremper

or

snow enigma X snow albino - two snows make a SS which has a solid eye + albino turns the solid eye red.

I'm leading towards the het eclipse though, cause those hatchling eyes are pretty bright, albino ss eyes are more dark maroon. Just my 2cents
 

richardrojas

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The Snow gene does not make red eyes, Albinos combined with Eclipses do.

But the enigma gene will make tinted eyes. I have a snow bell enigma with snake eyes but there is not any eclipse gene involve. I also have others snow enigmas that looks to be eclipse but they aren't. In the other hand I have just enigmas that doesn't show any eclipse looking eyes. Don't know for sure if is the combination of snow + enigma that makes the eyes to look like eclipse. How knows!!!!!!
 

arachboy

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two scenario's.....


snow enigma het eclipse X albino het eclipse - not sure if that's a bell or a darker tremper

or

snow enigma X snow albino - two snows make a SS which has a solid eye + albino turns the solid eye red.

I'm leading towards the het eclipse though, cause those hatchling eyes are pretty bright, albino ss eyes are more dark maroon. Just my 2cents

according to the seller the male is snow enigma het bell and the female is giant bell...
is it possible snow radar? because they look the same..
actually this was my first hatch...:main_laugh:
 

RampantReptiles

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according to the seller the male is snow enigma het bell and the female is giant bell...
is it possible snow radar? because they look the same..
actually this was my first hatch...:main_laugh:

How about we wait a few weeks/months to see how they grow and ask again later. Otherwise this seems like a futile arguement...
 

Gazz

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But the enigma gene will make tinted eyes. I have a snow bell enigma with snake eyes but there is not any eclipse gene involve. I also have others snow enigmas that looks to be eclipse but they aren't. In the other hand I have just enigmas that doesn't show any eclipse looking eyes. Don't know for sure if is the combination of snow + enigma that makes the eyes to look like eclipse. How knows!!!!!!

Though i've seen some Enigmas with Tinted eye, It's mainly the Snow gene that express Tinted eye the most often.
 

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