Morph ID

[LoveForLeos]

I would like help IDing these 2 leos. Any help would be great. I can post more pics of each if needed. Thanks.

visible male

Visible female

 

[Northstar Herp]

1- APTOR

2- RAPTOR

 

[LoveForLeos]

I have APTORS and RAPTORS and all of them have more color and pattern on their tails than these 2 do. Does anyone else have an opinion on the morph IDs? Thanks

 

[RAlbrecht]

Would need to know what the parents are... could be embers if something has that murphys gene in it

 

[LoveForLeos]

The parents are unknown. They were supposed to be female Novas but it is obvious that the visible male is NOT a nova since he doesn't even have the eclipse eye. They also don't look like any of the enigmas I have ever seen which is why I have posted for help.

 

[Northstar Herp]

You're not gonna know for sure unless you test breed or find out what the parents are. I was just giving an educated guess.

 

[cassadaga]

The second one is definitely a Nova, the first one is at least a Tremper Enigma, possible Nova.

 

[Taquiq]

+1 with Anthony. 2nd one is definitely a NOVA the 1st one maybe, I would say so because of the red eyes.

 

[LoveForLeos]

+1 with Anthony. 2nd one is definitely a NOVA the 1st one maybe, I would say so because of the red eyes.

If the 1st one could be a possible Nova, wouldn't it have to have the eclipse gene for that to be true? It has normal tremper albino eyes and it does not have the white nose of a normal eyed eclipse. So then, the first could not be a Nova, correct?

 

[Taquiq]

So your suggesting it's a Tremper Enigma? But the eyes in the first one are red and look like the second ones eyes and the second one is a NOVA. But the tail is throwing me off.

 

[LoveForLeos]

So your suggesting it's a Tremper Enigma? But the eyes in the first one are red and look like the second ones eyes and the second one is a NOVA. But the tail is throwing me off.

I believe it has more of a chance being a tremper enigma than it does being a NOVA since it is not eclipse. The first one has normal albino eyes. The second one has eclipse eyes.

 

[Gazz]

1ST:Talbino super hypo enigma.
2ad:Talbino eclipse enigma patternless striped.