My Dad Bought Me some Stuff

[DKGecko]

So after the mishap with bearded dragon we nursed him back to health... and my dad found some reptile carpet on Ebay for 22$ shipped for like 4 rolls. of it there was one for 60 gallon and two for 40 gallon... and one for like 5 gallon witch i have two 55 and a 40. and a 10... so i had make use of some the spare on one the tanks... but it looks good... and got pictures of my New Albino male too... and pics of the rest.

Bearded Dragons cage. and the dragon

the juv cage setup

the female cage setup(not sure if its choc. albino and nat.

my albino male(my new addition)

All nat. Male hes my budd

Anyways sorry for all the pictures i was havin fun with the camara .. I cant wait for my paycheck to come so i can start buildin

 

[Griesi]

It seems, that your bearded dragon needs a bigger cage soon and much more light in his enclosure even sooner. Search for a T-Rex UV, ZooMed Active Heat or something like that.
Try to make him feel at home, it`s worth it

 

[goReptiles]

The bearded dragon tank look s fine to me because it's a small dragon. He will need to upgrade, unless the tank he's using is the 55gallon he said he has. I would suggest a basking area that allows him to get closer to the UV light.

I would also like to suggest digital thermometers with a probe versus those stick on thermometers. Even if you use them on the floor like you have them, they can read inaccurate temperatures, and working with reptiles, having the right temperatures is very important for many reasons.

Also, in your leopard gecko cages, try to add more hides. They should have 1 on the hot side, 1 on the cool side, and 1 humide hide on the hot side.

Having the hides in the corner, the gecko may get stuck. That one looks like he keeps having problems.

 

[david13]

they look very nice

 

[DKGecko]

the dragons in a 40 gallon. and the albino was actally eat a cricket when i took the picture so he was tryin get it. the setup in bearded dragon is what the pet'acular employes told me to do... i have basking light onduring day red light on during night... the tank is really tall... i will be getting more stuff for the geckos this week.

 

[Griesi]

the setup in bearded dragon is what the pet'acular employes told me to do... i have basking light onduring day red light on during night... the tank is really tall... i will be getting more stuff for the geckos this week.

It´s the wrong section of the forum, sorry for that.
You don`t need red lights at night as long as it doesn`t get very cold where you live. Employes at the pet trade often just want to sell things- and sometimes they just don`t know it better.

What your dragon needs is the brightest light you can get! As a species that is active during the day in the australian outback, you need lots of UV and especially bright light to keep your dragon healthy and happy. If it gets too dark, he will get tired and will start preparing for hibernation or gets MDB (metabolic bone disease) from too less UV. There are a lot of UV tubes, that are not worth buying them. You need something really powerfull like the T-Rex Active UV Heat or the ZooMed Powersun UV. They are quite expensive- but really a musthave if you want to keep bearded dragons. If you can`t afford this, you should give your dragon to a new home.
Sorry for the hard words.
If you`ll bring him more light, he will grow into a healthy and active dragon for you.

Kind regards
Karsten

 

[Bodon]

i really like your albino female, nice set ups.

 

[goReptiles]

You can't always believe what a pet store employee tells you. You need a better basking area for the bearded dragon, UV, and preferrably UTH. Bearded dragon tanks can be costly to keep, the UV tubes need to be changed every 4-6 months (although they don't die they emit less and less uv rays). You really need digital thermometers to measure the temps in all the enclosures.

 

[Baker14]

You definitely need to change a few things qith the bearded dragon. First off, the 40 gallon is fine for now. Later a bigger tank may be more helpful. Second, you ABOSLUTELY NEED a UVB light. Preferably a 10.0 reptisun UVB. This allows them to absorb much needed calcium for growth and development. Thrid, you definitely need a digital therm. with probe to accuratley measure the basking temps, which should be 108-115 for babies-juvies, and 105-108 for adults.

 

[eric]

boy, some of you guys ease up a little..MAN!!!! "if you can't afford it, get rid of it!!!" WHAT???, am i glad you weren't around when i first started reptiles!! the post is what his dad bought him NOT what he doen't have!!! DKGECKO you are doing just fine, the carpet looks great! the 40 gallon tank for one dragon is just fine! Keep up the great work!

 

[Griesi]

boy, some of you guys ease up a little..MAN!!!! "if you can't afford it, get rid of it!!!" WHAT???

That`s the way it is. No one will be happy if the dragon gets ill. I don`t know how much experience you have with bearded dragons, Eric. There are several ways to keep them. Some may be good, some may be better and some are very different from others- and other ways are just wrong.

Keeping them just with a spot at day and a red light at night is just wrong.

Keeping a bearded dragon is much different from keeping geckos. If he would keep leopardgeckos this way, I would be just fine with it.

As DKgeckos states, that his cage is tall, fluorescent bulbs wouldn`t do the trick (beside they are also not bright enough- you NEED brighter lights as the T-Rex Active UV Heat or the ZooMed Powersun UV I mentioned).

DKgeckos, if you want to keep the bearded dragon I have good news for you:
Change some things and you will have much fun with your dragon maybe for a decade. If you don`t change things, get ready to pay high bills for the vet, soon.

The following is a very good book, that you should order, NOW.
It will explain most things to you:
http://www.amazon.com/Bearded-Dragon-Advanced-Vivarium-Systems/dp/1882770595

Bearded dragons are great animals, especially once they get a little bigger. But you really need the will to buy some expensive lights, big cages and pay very close attention what you feed them. They are worth it!

Take care,
Karsten

 

[DKGecko]

okay this is what dragon has in his tank right now
exo-terra Reptiglo florescent bulb full spectrum 10.0 20w
w/ exo terra compact fluorescent terrarium canopy
and my dad bought a zoo med reptisun fluorescent 10.0 uvb lamp 26watts= 130watts and also he bought (but i allrdy have it in his tank) is exo tera reptile sun-glo neodymium daylight bulb 100w

but one i got is 150 i belive

but so you say dont ened red light... what use at night? or just suppose use sun glo?
and i belive this pet shop knows what there talking about they breed; bearded dragons and have like 100 in there shop... he had metabolic bone disease when i bought him from petsmart.... and now hes back to getting there... i understand with petsmart... they dont no anything really.. unless its person who owns and breeds them. like a few the ppl who do work there... but Pet'acular knows what there talking about and tons people go to them for reptiles all petsmart people shop there for there animal's. ect..

 

[eric]

congrats Daniel they will be very happy congrats again!!<your doing good>

 

[Griesi]

@ DKGecko: This sounds much better and it`s good to hear, that you cured your little dragon from MBD. At nights, you need no additional lights or heat for your bearded dragon at all. They like it to be cooler at night.

Ask your Dad for getting the book I mentioned above. It`s a good one:main_yes:

Take care,
Karsten

 

[goReptiles]

It sounds like you've got the dragon's tank set up fine. I do want to mention, that just because they have 100 bearded dragons doesn't mean they know how to properly take care of them. But at least you have someone you can ask questions to and hopefully knows the basics. Definitely get a good reference book. And definitely make sure you know a reptile vet you can go to for emergencies.

Do consider a few changes in the gecko's tanks in regards to hides... They need more than one in order to properly thermoregulate themselves.

boy, some of you guys ease up a little..MAN!!!! "if you can't afford it, get rid of it!!!" WHAT???

This is the problem. When you buy reptiles without knowing how to take care of them properly, you can run into problems and serious health concerns with the reptile. If you can't afford it, don't get it is the key to any animal. If you can't afford vet bills, don't get a dog. If you can't afford to get all the proper accessories and housing, don't get a reptile.

 

[DKGecko]

i own 3 dogs and two birds also

theres vet right down my street.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

but Pet'acular knows what there talking about and tons people go to them for reptiles

Daniel, without breaking the rules here on GeckoForums, I will be happy to talk with you in person about Rich and Brian at Pet'acular Exotics. You will get much better information from the experienced breeders here on this website.

I think it's important for all of us to stay encouraging for the new members to the reptile hobby, and try to be diplomatic when we offer good advsie.

 

[eric]

In defense to what i wrote
"boy, some of you guys ease up a little..MAN!!!! "if you can't afford it, get rid of it!!!" WHAT???"
there is other ways to help some one getting started then to tell them if you can't afford a certain product you need not have reptiles is a bit extreme.thats what forums like this is for to help people.. not scare the crap out of them.we all have been down a road that we needed help with something.The original post was what his dad bought not what he didn't have or what he was doing wrong!! which was nothing!

 

[DKGecko]

oh just wondering though.. what rules would i be breaking?

 

[goReptiles]

My comment wasn't towards anyone in particular, but just in general towards people who buy animals on a whim.

Daniel, one of the rules on the forum is that basically you don't down a place, so to speak. Marcia seems to know something about that pet store you buy your potential breeding reptiles from that that could possible turn you away from the place. Which is why she said she'd talk to you in person versus flat out on the forums.

She did say that you're better off taking advice from more experienced people on this site though, so I'd assume they really don't know what they're talking about.