My leo
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gitrdone0420
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I hate to be the first one to bring this up...
But by the looks of the picture, it looks like she has MBD (Metabolic Bone Disease). See how flemsy her limbs are? That isnt normal. I dont know if you are aware that she had this or not, but I thought I would point it out.
The disease comes upon these guys when they dont have good calcium supply (feeders arent dusted, no calcium in the tank, etc.) Poor husbandry can also help push this along as well. Anyways, ask any questions and we would be happy to help you out.
She needs a lot of TLC, definetely a vet visit and some calcium without D3 and with D3, alternated.
But by the looks of the picture, it looks like she has MBD (Metabolic Bone Disease). See how flemsy her limbs are? That isnt normal. I dont know if you are aware that she had this or not, but I thought I would point it out.
The disease comes upon these guys when they dont have good calcium supply (feeders arent dusted, no calcium in the tank, etc.) Poor husbandry can also help push this along as well. Anyways, ask any questions and we would be happy to help you out.
She needs a lot of TLC, definetely a vet visit and some calcium without D3 and with D3, alternated.
gitrdone0420
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Oh, someone please tell me whether you agree... I could be wrong? But Im pretty sure that is what she looks like...
gitrdone0420
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Oh, sorry... BTW...
if the shed is stuck on the toes, you need to remove it ASAP. She will lose her toes, if the shed isnt helped off. The shed will cut off her circulation and the toes will fall off. If she isnt using a humid hide, you need to watch her every time she sheds to help her so it doesnt get stuck.
A warm Q-Tip, tweezers can help pull it off and also a nice warm (warm to the touch, not hot) soak will help as well.
if the shed is stuck on the toes, you need to remove it ASAP. She will lose her toes, if the shed isnt helped off. The shed will cut off her circulation and the toes will fall off. If she isnt using a humid hide, you need to watch her every time she sheds to help her so it doesnt get stuck.
A warm Q-Tip, tweezers can help pull it off and also a nice warm (warm to the touch, not hot) soak will help as well.
ok we will see what happens, i been giving her 7 mealies coated with calcium with d3 everyday since i got her (2 days ago) and i have a cap of cal without d3.
She is nice and active, doesnt mind being handled...I have sprayed the tile down with water hoping it will help the shed...if nothing works in the next few hours ill give her a soak in a tupperware.
She is nice and active, doesnt mind being handled...I have sprayed the tile down with water hoping it will help the shed...if nothing works in the next few hours ill give her a soak in a tupperware.
i fully agree with Melanie. she has severe MBD and needs to see a vet NOW. the shed needs to come off as well. the severity of the MBD suggests that she did not come from a very good place and that leads me to believe that she probably has several other issues going on. take her to the vet and have a full exam done and have her dewormed and put on a liquid calcium supplement. she needs to see a reptile/herp/exotic animal vet, not just a regular dog and cat vet. as far as her coloring goes, to me she looks like a normal with perhapse some bold stripe influence. thake her to the vet asap and updats us 
ReptarNDukeNukem
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Where did you get her from?Because no one should sell a Leopard Gecko in the state that she is in.IMO I think you should let her eat how much she wants until she gets rid of the MBD and she kinda looks skinny but because you had her for 2 days the past was out of your reach.
Agreed with horse.
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ok to help you with the shed issue a good way that works for my girl is to take a ziplock container or any container and put a small amout of warm water in it just enough to cover the feet when she is in it and let her soak a few minutes if she is jumpy you can put the lid on just have holes poked in the top and dont leave her unattended. also someone on her said a couple drops of cooking oil works good, DONT force any shed off or pull or you risk pulling off toes and skin and doing more harm.
as for the MBD everyone is right vet, calcium, ect . i wouldnt expect a full recovery but if you put in the hours of TLC and proper nutrients she could come out well and alot better off than she is now. I have a beardy i took in as a rescue with MBD and its alot of work and alot of money so make sure its something you are willing to go all the way for , unfortunately someone sold you this without informing you beforehand and its not fair to you If you cant do what this guy needs try to look for a rescue who can or post on here maybe someone in the area can take her in , If you are prepared to deal with this there are alot of people on here ready to help with info, best wishes hope she recovers well .
as for the MBD everyone is right vet, calcium, ect . i wouldnt expect a full recovery but if you put in the hours of TLC and proper nutrients she could come out well and alot better off than she is now. I have a beardy i took in as a rescue with MBD and its alot of work and alot of money so make sure its something you are willing to go all the way for , unfortunately someone sold you this without informing you beforehand and its not fair to you If you cant do what this guy needs try to look for a rescue who can or post on here maybe someone in the area can take her in , If you are prepared to deal with this there are alot of people on here ready to help with info, best wishes hope she recovers well .
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I agree with what everyone has said. She's quite a cute girl, I'm very sorry to hear and see that she has MBD. I'd get her to a vet and see what they suggest for your next steps. Although I've never dealt with MBD, I can vouch for the community in that they will try their best to assist you. Great group of people here, and their knowledge comes in mighty handy.
breeding her is definetely out. females who have had even mild MBD should not be bred because it can deform their pelvis and cause them to become egg bound which can be fatal. best of luck with her. if you dont have the finances to keep her perhapse the seller can refund you, but its always hard to get money back. other wise you can put her in the adoption section and maybe someone on here would like to adopt her
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Yea, breeding her would be extremely unethical and downright abusive to this poor girl. Be careful in writing your angry letter to the seller... A lot of people are very ignorant in the care of reptiles and this could have been something that they had no idea about. Not defending them, I just want you to look at it from all sides (For example, if this was from someone off of CL, they probably had no idea). However, if it is from a breeder, you need to get your money back. No animal should be sold in this condition...
She needs to be allowed to eat as much as she wants, so placing a bowl of mealies in there 24/7 would be a good idea. Of course, as long as she isnt having any problems with vomitting, but I am assuming not since you didnt mention any.
I recommend a vet visit, just like everyone is saying. She deserves full medical attention at this point.
I am sorry that your first leo is going very well, but like Bridgette said - perhaps adopting her out if you are unable to care for her would be in everyones best interest?
She needs to be allowed to eat as much as she wants, so placing a bowl of mealies in there 24/7 would be a good idea. Of course, as long as she isnt having any problems with vomitting, but I am assuming not since you didnt mention any.
I recommend a vet visit, just like everyone is saying. She deserves full medical attention at this point.
I am sorry that your first leo is going very well, but like Bridgette said - perhaps adopting her out if you are unable to care for her would be in everyones best interest?
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From those pictures that you just posted. Her MBD is a lot more serious than I originally thought... That poor girl. You still havent said who you got her from? ( I mean besides pointing out names), did you get her from a breeder or from an individual like off of CL or something?
StopperExotics
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Wow, I've never seen MBD that bad. That poor little girl. You need to get her to a vet.
And I'm curious, like Melanie, where did you get her?
And I'm curious, like Melanie, where did you get her?
ahh this has made me so angry.
I have been wanting a leo for so long...and the wife decided to allow me to get one for my bday (was dec 31st) and I get ripped by someone who said they took good care of them. I spend all our "extra" money on getting a proper set up for her and everything. So returning her and getting a new one is out of the question unless I can find one for free This sucks.
I have been wanting a leo for so long...and the wife decided to allow me to get one for my bday (was dec 31st) and I get ripped by someone who said they took good care of them. I spend all our "extra" money on getting a proper set up for her and everything. So returning her and getting a new one is out of the question unless I can find one for free
This sucks.
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I am sorry for your first leo being in a not too healthy state. Hope it does not discourage you from the experience of owning one, they are great creatures.
I always feared MBD with one of my males because he did not eat dusted food often, so I began using Exo-terra's Calcium water treatment. He never had a sign of MBD in the 3 yrs I owned him.
I have a female blizzard that always leaves shed stuck on her toes. I tried just the warm water baths but it was still very difficult to get the shed off. So I purchased Zilla's shedding conditioner and use that in the water. After about a 30 minute soak I take her out, wet my hand in the bath, then lightly grab onto her toe. When she pulls away the ridges from my fingers help pull the shed off. She never sits still enough to actually grab the shed with tweezers. If it does not come off right away another 10-15 minutes in the bath and it pulls right off.
I always feared MBD with one of my males because he did not eat dusted food often, so I began using Exo-terra's Calcium water treatment. He never had a sign of MBD in the 3 yrs I owned him.
I have a female blizzard that always leaves shed stuck on her toes. I tried just the warm water baths but it was still very difficult to get the shed off. So I purchased Zilla's shedding conditioner and use that in the water. After about a 30 minute soak I take her out, wet my hand in the bath, then lightly grab onto her toe. When she pulls away the ridges from my fingers help pull the shed off. She never sits still enough to actually grab the shed with tweezers. If it does not come off right away another 10-15 minutes in the bath and it pulls right off.
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