My leo's.....a little id help please...

[Marr]

well this is our trio of leo's.............pretty sure lizzy is a regular.....she's an older girl,i know atleast six years,but thinkn closer too seven...........the new editions i just love,when i seen the girl i had too have her lol............she's now goes by caramel and then mr sunshine the boy my gf picked out,i think he'll turn out too be a real stunner,still a juvie..........any help is greatly appreciated as im not up on my morphs,i though they all looked like lizzy till recently lmao..........

lizzy

caramel

mr sunshine

 

[WulfSC]

Right on... nice lookin' leos.

 

[Marr]

Right on... nice lookin' leos.

thanks..........

 

[Jordan]

lizzy is a normal.
Caramel is a bell albino
mr sunshine is a SHTCT

nice gecko's. though they shouldnt be housed together, especially since they are all different sizes.
if i were you i would seperate them.

 

[Marr]

lizzy is a normal.
Caramel is a bell albino
mr sunshine is a SHTCT

nice gecko's. though they shouldnt be housed together, especially since they are all different sizes.
if i were you i would seperate them.

thanks Jordan!
haven't had any issues yet there in a 75G,there doing better than i though,the breeder i got them from said trios work well,and i see that also breeding fish,no issues yet there all getting along,eating well,any sign of trouble and i got a million other tanks around here i can separate too lol,the males a touch young,but caramel and lizzy are both adults and almost identical size

 

[Marr]

lizzy is a normal.
Caramel is a bell albino
mr sunshine is a SHTCT

nice gecko's. though they shouldnt be housed together, especially since they are all different sizes.
if i were you i would seperate them.

the breeder i got then from mentioned the blocking pattern,on caramels back to be tremper........now im lost lol

 

[Marr]

looking now Jordan i guess i mis-understud her lol

 

[Marr]

anyone else got an opinion?..........on what caramel is?

 

[Jordan]

thanks Jordan!
haven't had any issues yet there in a 75G,there doing better than i though,the breeder i got them from said trios work well,and i see that also breeding fish,no issues yet there all getting along,eating well,any sign of trouble and i got a million other tanks around here i can separate too lol,the males a touch young,but caramel and lizzy are both adults and almost identical size

75g is huge, so shouldnt be any fights over food and warmth hopefully.
Caramel and Lizzy should be okay for a while but id recommend taking the male out while he is young, as they may dominate him, stop him from eating also, he may try and breed with them while he is young, which culd cause him damage and if the females are not receptive and ovulating then THEY will likely cause him damage. Maybe just put the male in another enclosure until he is the same size as them.
And then if you have done plenty research into gecko's living together then you can put him back in. However they WILL breed, so plenty of research is vital.

the breeder i got then from mentioned the blocking pattern,on caramels back to be tremper........now im lost lol

Well its nothing to do with the pattern that makes her tremper, but its very possible that the gecko is a tremper albino rather than a bell albino. Actually its probably more likely to be a tremper so i dont know why i skipped to assume bell. However a good clear picture of the eye could help us identify it more accurately (however not 100%, if you ever become interested in breeding the leo's then test breeding will have to be done to find out which albino strain it is)

looking now Jordan i guess i mis-understud her lol

No no, she may be right, as i said above, i dont know why i said Bell Albino, it was a bit daft of me to assume that, but with my experience with albino's, Bells tend to look very much like your gecko.

 

[Marr]

75g is huge, so shouldnt be any fights over food and warmth hopefully.
Caramel and Lizzy should be okay for a while but id recommend taking the male out while he is young, as they may dominate him, stop him from eating also, he may try and breed with them while he is young, which culd cause him damage and if the females are not receptive and ovulating then THEY will likely cause him damage. Maybe just put the male in another enclosure until he is the same size as them.
And then if you have done plenty research into gecko's living together then you can put him back in. However they WILL breed, so plenty of research is vital.


Well its nothing to do with the pattern that makes her tremper, but its very possible that the gecko is a tremper albino rather than a bell albino. Actually its probably more likely to be a tremper so i dont know why i skipped to assume bell. However a good clear picture of the eye could help us identify it more accurately (however not 100%, if you ever become interested in breeding the leo's then test breeding will have to be done to find out which albino strain it is)





No no, she may be right, as i said above, i dont know why i said Bell Albino, it was a bit daft of me to assume that, but with my experience with albino's, Bells tend to look very much like your gecko.

yeah referencing pics of both i wanna still go with tremper,ill post a clear pic of her eye for a better id,i totally understand the importance of research,which is all i'm doing at this point lol,have bred wild africans for ten years and theres far too many not doing there research before diving in.......lizzy has been well taken care of for the past six years i assure you that............

 

[Marr]

need closer?..........will have too wait shes sleeping lol............

 

[snakegirl]

i would say

1) Normal
2)tremper Albino
3) Hypo

 

[Marr]

i would say

1) Normal
2)tremper Albino
3) Hypo

Thanks i agree.......:main_thumbsup:

 

[snakegirl]

the tremper albino is a just that Judging from the first photo and on, this gecko is a tremper albino and in no way resembles a bell albino


as for the one ID as a "S.H.T.C.T" i would Kindly Disagree for some of it. S.H.T.C.T stands for Super Hypo Tangerine Carrot Tail, it is indeed a Super hypo but there is Less then 15% percent orange in the tail. morph standards for S.H.T.C.T Must have more then 15% i would say that gecko is a "SHT" Super hypo tangerine.

 

[Marr]

the tremper albino is a just that Judging from the first photo and on, this gecko is a tremper albino and in no way resembles a bell albino


as for the one ID as a "S.H.T.C.T" i would Kindly Disagree for some of it. S.H.T.C.T stands for Super Hypo Tangerine Carrot Tail, it is indeed a Super hypo but there is Less then 15% percent orange in the tail. morph standards for S.H.T.C.T Must have more then 15% i would say that gecko is a "SHT" Super hypo tangerine.

i'm guessing with a little more time he'll color more too so maybe too early too get an accurate id?................helped tons..........i owe you lol

 

[snakegirl]

i don't think he will be being much more if any orange on the tail, am very confident he is a "SHT" Super hypo tangerine. glad i could help. you have a Lovely batch there! good luck with all of them

 

[Marr]

the tremper albino is a just that Judging from the first photo and on, this gecko is a tremper albino and in no way resembles a bell albino


as for the one ID as a "S.H.T.C.T" i would Kindly Disagree for some of it. S.H.T.C.T stands for Super Hypo Tangerine Carrot Tail, it is indeed a Super hypo but there is Less then 15% percent orange in the tail. morph standards for S.H.T.C.T Must have more then 15% i would say that gecko is a "SHT" Super hypo tangerine.

also very impressive website,those chinese cave geckos are stunning,WOW is right lol,do you ship too canada when the weathers warm lol............

 

[Jordan]

Heather is right, i didnt ceck the carrot tail tbh, but he is just a Super Hypo, and probably classifies as a tangerine too.

and from the eye pic, yes its a tremper.
though it body does resemble a bell albino, but id say tremper from the eye.

 

[Marr]

Heather is right, i didnt ceck the carrot tail tbh, but he is just a Super Hypo, and probably classifies as a tangerine too.

and from the eye pic, yes its a tremper.
though it body does resemble a bell albino, but id say tremper from the eye.

thanks for all your help...........cheers!

 

[Gazz]

1/Normal.
2/Talbino normal.
3/Super hypo.