My Rescued Female.. *Help*

[GRHerptry]

I just picked up a normal ( Rescued ) female Leo. She has extreamley raspy breathing, I put her nose up to my ear and everytime she breathes in or out, she clicks.

The previous owners had her in a 10 gallon tank on Sand a small bowl with no water, and one hide. That was it.

Once I got her home, I gave her repti carpet, another hide,rock,larger bowl, and a humid hide. Her new 20 Long's temps are 88 on the warm side, and 85 to 81ish on the cool side. I have a heat pad in for her, and night lamp at night, which her temps at night stay in the 80's. But her humidity is only in the 20's.
She has toe's missing, and seems to have never seen calcium in her life. ( She is 5 year so old )

She also have a little bit of watery type stuff coming out her nose.

The Herp Vet is not open on weekends, So I will take her in asap. But I need to know how give her a little comfort until then.

Is there anything I can do for her?

~Thanks.

 

[Ccrashca069]

I would soak her in warm water for about 15 minutes. To raise the humidity in her tank, just use a water bottle and mist inside. She might have a respiratory infection. Just keep her temps and get her to the vet asap on Monday.

 

[The Sunset Gang]

Well, I would try to raise her warm side temps to around 92 but no higher than 94. Also try to have cool side temps around room temp (72-75). This will allow for thermal regulation. Try feeding some mealworms but she may not eat, maybe try some calcium. Good Luck!!

 

[GRHerptry]

Right away!

I just wanted to make sure I had an OK to soak her like I do with the snakes and Beardies! ( I'm new to Leo's. But not with Snakes/BD's ) I've been doing as much research as I possibly can, but its still not enough. I had rescued a male/female pair. The female is pregnant and the male is super skinny. I'm in the process of putting weight on both but the female is my priority, as she looks very gravid and ready to lay pretty soon, I dont want to loose her because she is so underweight. So I'm trying to get them to eat, whatever it takes! The previous owners were just feeding Wax worms.

What is the healthiest way to get these two to pick up weight, and also are Meal Worms etc. alright, I've heard multible things about them, I cant give them to the BD's because of the digestion on the outer shell of the Mealworm.But not totally sure about the Leopard Gecko.
Also I have Calcium that I use to dust my Crickets etc. for the beardies. Can I do the same with the Leo's?


I will soak her in warm water, and get her to the vet ASAP Monday.

Going to place my order in for food insects/mice tomorrow, anything I should in particular I should add for the newest additions?
Thank you.

 

[GRHerptry]

Sorry Sunsetgang, I had posted while you were posting.

I will definatly work on raising the warm side to 92. And work on the cooler side. I have a therm. in their tank that tests for Humidity and Heat, and the warm side got in the 90's I figured that was a little to hot, but if you OKed that I will go ahead and allow it to get up there. While their cool side is still remaining in the low 80's.. ( Will work that out )

I also didnt know if Leo's liked to Bask on a rock? ( not a heat rock ) but on the warm side, I have a rock in there, not sure if they would use it or not?

~Thanks.

 

[The Sunset Gang]

I don't know about soaking sorry. Is the female in the first post the same one in the second post?? And do I have it right that you have a male AND a female rescue??

 

[GRHerptry]

Yes, that is correct! I had rescued the male and female pair. Yes she is. She was in the 10 gallon tank with the male. ( Forgot to mention )

Not sure how long they've been together in the 10 gallon, just got them like that.

So I put the female in her own 20 and the male in his own. Not sure if male and female Leos can live together comfortably?

 

[The Sunset Gang]

Males and females can live together comfortably, but there can be some bullying but ten gallons isn't big enough for two. My warm temps are between 92-94 and cool side around 75. This change in temps allow them to decide where they want for thermal regulation. Since they were on sand there is a chance for impaction so make sure you ask the vet about that. Leos don't really bask like beardies, they like warm spots under a hide, they love belly heat. Feeding can consist of crickets, mealworms, and waxworms. Anything else?

 

[GRHerptry]

Thanks so much for answering all of my questions! Your an AWESOME help!

And also. ( Last Question I promise ) When the female is gravid, I can see and feel lump's ( eggs ) should there be any change in feeding ( increase's ) any type of behavior changes I may see before she gets ready to lay?

Also will the male bother the eggs?
Would you suggest putting the male back with the female? Since they've been togther for a while now?

( I know thats more then one question, sorry )

 

[The Sunset Gang]

Don't worry about questions, that is what this site is for. If a female is gravid you will see and feel the eggs. I have heard that they intake more food until a few days before. Now when they are almost ready, they will dig a lot and you need to get somewhere for her to lay eggs. This could be a tupperware container. If you are keeping them together he shouldn't bother the eggs. Personally, if you have them seperated, just keep it that way.

 

[LeopardGeckoMom52688]

She will stop eating. You should provide a moist hide for her to dig and lay in. Vermiculite or bed a beast would be great. And then boy choice you can incubate the eggs. As far as her being sick i can't really help you much and I am sorry. No I would recomend keeping them apart until they are both better. the male wont bother the eggs. but once you put a moist hide in the tank you should check it everyday and take the eggs out. And then as stated before you can incubate the eggs or toss them. May I ask whre you are from?

 

[malt_geckos]

I don't think soaking in water is a good idea! If she is raspy, she has a respiratory infection and needs to go to the vet! The humidity from the soak will only make it worse!

 

[GRHerptry]

Ok, got it!

Leopardgeckomom, I'm from Delaware. I already have a humid hide in her tank with moss inside. That what I use for shedding my snakes.

maltgekos, Ok, then I will hold off on soaking her, but do you think raising the humidity will make it worse or any better? She still has another day to go like this.

Thesunsetgang, Thank you for answering all of my questions!!

I had already made an incubator in tubs with Vermiculite and Moss, for the snakes and beardies eggs. With using Heattape. I've thought about using the Hovabator, but I've heard there are many draw backs to that particular model of incubator?

Also should I be supplying any other types of vitamins besides the Calcium?

 

[The Sunset Gang]

Well, I wouldn't raise humidity unless she or he is about to shed. Only have a humid hide. And I had no problem answering your quesitons. I have been told that hovabators work. The one model with a turbo fan doesn't because it makes it too hot. I have a regiment of supplementing. I supplement with calcium with the vitamin d3 once a week, multi-vit once a week, and plain calcium the other days.

 

[GRHerptry]

Ok, I'm going bring her over to an emergency herp vet, ( Yes, I found one ) not my normal Herp Vet, but one that will take her in tomorrow.

Has anyone experienced this sort of thing with Leos before? If so was there anti biotic's needed to be givin? Or just information on what to further do at home?

 

[malt_geckos]

Ok, good that you're getting her to the vet!

When leos are exposed to high humidity, it can cause respiratory infections. The only humidity you want in your tank is the humid hide. I wouldn't soak her even if she is having a hard time shedding at this point.

They aren't like humans where humidity helps us stop caughing and makes our throats feel better. It is actually worse for the gecko to get the humidity which is water in its lungs because leopard geckos are from dry climates and aren't supposed to have humidity like that.

 

[GRHerptry]

maltgekos: Ok, I have their humid hide in with them..

I had a thought last night... How would I go about rehydrating a Leo? They dont seem to drink that often, even during the night. They pretty much explore ( very slowly ) and go back to sleep. ( This is day three of me having them ) I offered them some meal worms. And didnt get a response to them.

I've givin fluids to snakes before, but never Leo's. ( If that's what would have to be done? ) I really dont know. I'm sure if it did have to be done, the vet would probably do it hu?

Also the female is alot more plump then the male, ( probably because she's pregnant ) but if I posted a picture, do you think you guys would be able to tell me how much weight she would need or not need to be gained?

I'm going to weigh them on my gram scale today, for my records.

~Thanks everyone for all of the help!

 

[GoGo]

Offer them mealworms, superworms, waxworms, crickets, horned worms, silk worms, pheonix worms, butterworms, roaches. Out of that list whatever you can get your hands on offer them all to the geckos and see what theyll eat. If they will only eat the waxworms then you have a bit of a problem, not so much weight as the waxworms are really fatty but nutrition, in which the waxworms are lacking. As for hydration you could fill a syringe with water and put a drop on their nose(NOT ON THE NOSE HOLES), they should lick it off. You should hope to have the female past 40g, try for 60g or more if you can. The male should be around 40-60g as soon as you can get him there, then let him gain at his own pace.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Respiratory infections can be treated with a broad-spectrum antibiotic like Baytril, if caught soon enough. Higher tempers can help some, but at this point she definitely needs veterinary intervention. Please keep us posted on her condition!

 

[Ccrashca069]

Well talk to your vet but the soaking in warm water will help with the dehydration and with any sand impactation. As far as trying any other foods, I like Phoenix worms. They are high in calcium, low in fat, and move around alot. I might have spelled it wrong but you get the ideal.