New natural viv

jakemyster44

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I had been wating a natural vivarium for leos for quite a while now, and finally had time to do it. I started by getting a 50g breeder aquarium off of craig's list, for $60. It came with a hood, and light strip, but I need to build a top using wire mesh. I plan to have the light strip run the length of the tank, and then put a UVB bulb in a heat lamp that will be over the several plants that are yet to be added to the cage. With the substrate as deep as it is, I eliminated the possibility of using an UTH. However, if need be (I still have to mess around with the setup to make sure I have correct temps) I may attach some heat tape/pad to the side of the tank on one end. The rock directly under the heat lamp does a great job of holding heat for a while after the light has turned off. After consulting other breeders/hobbyists I came up with a general idea of what I wanted it to look like. Here are some pictures of the proccess:

1. Lay the drainage layer. I just poured in about 1.5" of the cheapest gravel I could find.
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2. (No picture) Lay filter fabric over the gravel. This keeps the substrate from combining with the drainage layer. I used the kind that is woven.
3. Add a 2:1 mixture of peat moss and sand.
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4. Add larger rocks first, coming up with the basic layout, then fill in certain gaps with the smaller rocks.
5. Cover the ground surface with the golf ball sized rocks, so that there is no exposed loose substrate.
6. Add cholla wood, water bowl, humid hide, etc. (some elements are hidden, the humid hide for example is sunken into the substrate, and covered with small rocks. I may change this, but for now it works.
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I still need to add plants, and obveously the geckos. But I am waiting untill I get the correct temp. and humidity ranges. I will be sure to put up more pictures of it when it is done. The pictures do the tank no justice, and the caves look alot smaller than they really are. I may end up taking pictures of all the caves, just for size comparison. What do you think?

Edit: After the geckos choose the area in witch they defficate, I plan to place a small, flat stone there in hopes that I can simply remove the stone and wash it when neccisary. If they decide to go way back in the caves, then unfortunatly cleaning with be moree difficult, but I am willing to clean it as this is something I'v been wating to do for a long time.
 
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tangerineman

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hey jake

looks cool,:main_thumbsup:
i think i'd have a tough time deciding which lucky geckos get to go into that setup..lol

-Duane
 
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SDahmer

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Dude! That looks awesome man...good job. :main_thumbsup:
 

acpart

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It looks gorgeous. Here are a couple of other ideas, not that you should change what you do, but that you or others could incorporate into future designs.

First, many people use clay balls as a drainage layer because they are a lot lighter than gravel and will reduce the overall weight of the tank.

Also, I had to confront the UTH issue when I decided to make a natural viv for my fat tails. What I ended up doing was to put the drainage layer and substrate in about 2/3 of the tank. In the other third, I put substrate only (separating the 2 areas with a piece of plexiglass set on edge). Then I made ceramic hides with bottoms and removable lids that I half buried in the substrate, so the geckos can either be on the "warm" side in the warm hides, or on the cool side with the planted substrate.

Aliza
 

jakemyster44

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I got two plants today from Home Depot. I rinsed the leaves off really well, and got rid of the soil they came in (rinsing the roots as well). I'm really happy with the way its looking, but I still nedd to add one more "taller" plant in the back where there is the space between the rock pile on the left, and the one on the right. Heres what the tank looks like right now:
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Haworthia:
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Some type of succulent that looks really nice in contrast with the rock color:
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Any suggestions for speicies of taller plants? I really would love to put an aloe in there, but I know they attract bugs and stuff, deffinatly not something I need in there. Man, I am REALLY enjoying this tank! Something I learned, when you want to go natural dont use fake rocks, the real deal will ALWAYS look best. Thanks for looking,
 

tangerineman

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nice, natural environment is definitely cool.

i already had some nice rocks..lol, (..i wanna rock right now..)
but never did the base layer stuff/drainage layer
currently my substrate is a mix of crushed marbles over white sand with some glitter mixed in.......juuuuust kidding.

looks cool -where's the geckos?
 

jakemyster44

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Thanks,
I need to make a lid for the setup, so no geckos will be added untill I get that aspect covered. The temps are looking great though. I am tempted to put the five adult females in there, but I dont want to have to seperate them during breeding season in order to correctly lbel the eggs. I think it will end up being the normal pair for now, then maybe the SHTCTB and SG trio, evetually I'd like to do a mack trio... haha, lots to coose from.
 

jakemyster44

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it looks really really awesome - but leopard geckos NEED a humid hide!!
Thank you, and there IS a humid hide. I burried a cool whip container with a hole in the lid, then covered the top with the rocks. You can't really see it from any of the pictures, but its burried under the lowest cave.
 
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bonnie

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absolutely beautiful!!! I do have to ask though, why the deep substrate layers for small succulents? If it were me (and it will be, I'm totally stealing this look!) I'd just keep the succulents in their pots and camoflauge them with rocks. I've grown those plants and neither will develop a very large root ball.
 

jakemyster44

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I'll have to take pictures of the hide, but in short, it will not be very difficult to mist it withought moving any of the rocks around. Regarding the substrate depth, honestly, I wasnt thinking it through very clearly. If anything it helps disperse the weight of the large rocks better. I'd love to see your setup!
 

darkridder

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Jake it looks almost like a chicks and hens or is it a hens and chicks plant, i dont remember, but I think that might be what ur mystery plant is
 

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