New pictures of the Leo with the CLEAR PUPIL * GOOD PICS*

[millerbobby1984]

After looking into it further, I don't believe it shows any signs of being blind but I'm not sure.
The eye is healthy, but there is no color in the pupil (the vertical part that is usually black, or red in the albinos case) You can see directly into the eye and in person, it looks amazing.

Please add thoughts

I'm no medical expert, but she has looked this way since birth and never shown any signs of being a bad hunter or being blind. With a clear pupil, I think she could still see, and I can see the veins that are normal in the iris or sclera.

 

[CharmedMom]

Personally the reflections from the flash of the camera make it extremely difficult to see anything.
My best suggestion would be to take her outside on a sunny/warm day and take some pictures in the sunlight and hopefully you can get some more close up/in focus shots.

 

[millerbobby1984]

those aren't reflections, look close at the THIRD image, you can see right into the eye

 

[millerbobby1984]

those aren't reflections, look close at the THIRD image, you can see right into the eye btw, you're looking in to an eyeball. an eyeball is made to reflect, with no flash at all, the gecko looks the exact same. It's clear, and white against the back of the eyeball.

 

[bfb345]

That is very interesting

 

[DrCarrotTail]

The pictures are too blurry for me to tell what her eye looks like but from what I understand, in order to label something as a new "morph," the producers do several generations of test breeding to see if the trait is heritable or if it is just a random fluke or mutation and if it is heritable, how it works (dominant, recessive, co dominant, etc.).

Before I bred a gecko with a clear eye like you have, I would bring it to a qualified vet to have a professional diagnosis of whether the gecko is blind or not. If it is blind or has some other issue that might take away from its quality of life, even if the trait is heritable I would not perpetuate it.

He's a cute guy regardless! Good luck!

 

[millerbobby1984]

Thanks Lisa. I guess I feel lucky to stumble upon such a cool mutation or whatever. The gecko hunts perfectly and always has. I tried tons of different picture angles but because I'm capturing a clear eye, inside of an eye socket, we can't get a decent picture.

 

[katie]

very cool... whatever it is!

 

[B&B Geckos]

Cool! Have you tried making it flinch on that side to assess whether it can see through it?

 

[millerbobby1984]

Cool! Have you tried making it flinch on that side to assess whether it can see through it?

No, lol, I havn't tried that, the clear part gets larger in the darkness and smaller in light, just like a normal pupil. I think it has sight.

 

[Thorgecko707]

These better pictures make it look blind. I'd take it to a vet to confirm. The eye could have just not developed while in the egg. I wouldn't start calling it a new morph or mutation until you have a professional examine it in person. Even if it turns out to be legit there are hundreds or thousands of geckos with paradox eyes that are not genetic.

 

[millerbobby1984]

OMG!!!! I talked to the guy I got this gecko from!!! we have 3 more with clear eyes!!! IT'S GENETIC!!!!!!!!!!! A NEW TYPE OF GENE HAS BEEN PROVEN!!! KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN........ YOU'LL SEE EVERYONE WANTING THESE SOON!!!

 

[Dazzling]

Or... three more blind geckos? I'm sorry, but something doesn't smell right. This smells very fishy to me.

 

[OhioGecko]

I did physically see the gecko in person today at the Cleveland Reptile show. The eye looks normal with larger pupil. The pupil is totally clear and you can see inside it. The whole eye is not clear, just the pupil. The pupil does respond to light properly.

I would be interested in seeing some of the other geckos that display the same trait.


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[Xaila]

I'm more involved with snake stuff, but for anything it takes time to truly prove out a morph. One year's breeding that produces a few funky-looking traits isn't enough to brand it a new morph. It could've been incubation issues or some other factor. In any case, I'm finding this whole thing a little fishy myself. I'll eat my hat if I'm wrong I guess.

EDIT in light of recent post:

Sounds like it may not be blindness then. That's good at least. I'd still hesitate to call it a 'morph' yet but I'm used to ball pythons and everyone trying to convince everyone else that they have 'the next big thing'. Sounds like it may be something interesting and worth keeping an eye on (pun intended )

 

[millerbobby1984]

I hereby withdraw any statement about this morph I previously called "clear eyes" and I announce this statement: I am not an expert in this field and now I have an expert involved. If this morph did exist, I'd probably call it "Bobby eyes",after my son, or "ohio eyes". I would not just call it "clear eyes". But I am pulling back from all gecko boards and this discussion until genetics are proven........ Will the Leo world be shaken? I guess noone will know for another year, or maybe we should wait 2 years?