New Rosies on the horizon :)

[GeckoStud]

Ok so the breeder I was talking to got back to me, and I'm going to get this trio of Mexican rosy boas. He wasn't sure on the exact locals, but I don't mind. The male is a proven breeder, he kind of reminds me of an Ortiz because of the banding, I know that Nigel has one so he may be able to give me a little more incite on that. The two little females, I'm not sure about but if anyone has a guess, go for it. I am so excited to get these little guys, he's going to hold them for me for a while but I'm still very excited .

 

[Nigel4less]

I would have comparison pictures for you if my Hard drive didn't crash... I will try to get some pictures your way Derek. But to be honest I think they are just mutts, The first one definitely could have some Ortiz blood in him.

 

[GeckoStud]

Its a good possibility, but I don't mind. All the Mexicans are trivirgata no? So there shouldn't be any worries about hybrids other than difference in locality? I might breed one of the females to my other male, which I believe is a myriolepis. I won't sell the offspring, and if I did they'd clearly be labeled as hybrid. But I've seen what has been produced and the babies are beautiful. Still chewing on it though.

 

[goReptiles]

I agree with Nigel in that I see a little mix in them...

Although, I'm pretty new to rosies, I think it's probably better to stick with pure than not. They seem to look better and are definitely the preferred over hybrids. I also want to say that not all Mexicans are triv, but again new to rosies and could be WAY off base.

Who are you buying from? Just curious...

 

[goReptiles]

Take it back. I think you're right in that mexicans are all triv, but I still don't think it'd be a great idea to mix them, especially if you're not sure what they are. INMO

I'm looking at several pictures, and I see more than just ortiz in those snakes. they definitely look mixed, especially wth the yellow tint on the females.

Here, check out this site: I'm not sure if you've seen it already or not though.
http://www.localityrosys.com/localities.php

 

[GeckoStud]

Yeah that's a great site to use, wonderful pictures and a great help as well. I look at it all the time haha. I know the females are not ortiz, the male probably isn't either but I thought he looked similar.

I look at it this way too, I have personally seen hybrids between a San Felipe and a Mexican, the offspring are incredibly beautiful, burgundy and orange colors (I guess I'm an exception to the rule of people preferring pure lol). I also have no plans whatsoever to sell the offspring to the public, and will give some of them to friends and family. The babies I have seen are healthy and happy and that's all that matters to me. If I had prior knowledge that the offspring would have a bad survival rate I'd never attempt it. I will send you a pm on the breeder, I'm purchasing from. They're just a personal pet project really, I don't plan to breed these to sell them to the public so I see no harm in mixing them, again just IMO.

But I understand your concerns on selling just pure locality rosys, especially when mixing of sub species are concerned. Diluting bloodlines and such. Sadly which is the case with many rosys you see at shows and online, no one seems to know their localities. I really only know of a couple breeders who actually have their localities down pact, which is good. But once again I assure everyone reading the thread its just a pet project, I'm not going to be selling the offspring as such and such this etc, etc.

 

[GeckoStud]

Oh I noticed on the localityrosies site too that the Whitewater Albino is listed as a hybrid of roseofusca x gracia. Is this accurate? Just curious?

 

[Nigel4less]

Oh I noticed on the localityrosies site too that the Whitewater Albino is listed as a hybrid of roseofusca x gracia. Is this accurate? Just curious?

:main_yes:

 

[GeckoStud]

Haha, go figure, we're commenting on hybrids and one of the more popular morphs turn out to be one haha.

 

[Nigel4less]

Haha, go figure, we're commenting on hybrids and one of the more popular morphs turn out to be one haha.

Yes but it has been diluted over the years and the roseofusca blood is almost non-existant.

 

[GeckoStud]

Ah I see, still pretty cool though.