offspring will be...

[tdemp]

if i bred a male tangerine albino to a female sunglow what would the offspring be?
thanks

 

[Jeanne]

As long as they are both the same type of Albino, you will get some Tangerine Albinos, some Hypos, and maybe even some Sunglows!

 

[tdemp]

i was looking on urban geckos site and they have so many diff kinds of sunglows i was looking at the ones that are 150 dollars and they look like tang albino almost and some look like super hypo tangerine
i dont got a pic but if you wanted to look on there site then you could see them. DO they look tremper?

 

[tdemp]

number 3 and 46 are what i was looking at

 

[eyelids]

All of their albinos are Tremper strain.

 

[tdemp]

ok thanks! thats great

 

[lubricus]

So are you getting a sun-glow? Im going to have some soon:main_yes: except its a Bell-sun-glow, Im expecting eggs any day now, you should stop over soon and NO! I haven't finished my rack:main_rolleyes: (long story)

 

[tdemp]

lol, well some sunglows at urban are only 150 sooo it wouldnt be bad to get one but im not for sure ya i will have to stop by. where you gettting the bell sunglow never herd of it, do you got pics it would be cool to see
ttyl

 

[lubricus]

You were holding the sun-glow in the car, remember my Bell Super Hybino (AKA bell sun-glow) LOL

 

[tdemp]

LMAO oh lol ya he is sooo beautiful

 

[capitalcitygeckos]

Urban sunglows for $150 don't look like sunglows to me. They look like regular tangerine albinos. Dark ones at that!

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

Urban sunglows for $150 don't look like sunglows to me. They look like regular tangerine albinos. Dark ones at that!

I agree.

I always wondered why they called them Sunglows when they had bands...

 

[Franks_Geckos]

While I agree that Urban Gecko Sunglows (1 t o 3 Star ) that are priced at 150 do not look any better than some Tangerine Trempers I have sold for 40, I think that as long as it is his bloodline and he was the first to use the Sunglow name when referring to Leopard Geckos, he can call those Tangerine Trempers whatever he wants. However, people who know better know that a real nice Hybino of any strain look way better than his low end Sunglows. It's a simple case of paying for the name or bloodline. Personally, I think there are other breeders who have produced some killer Hybinos and charge way less than The Urban Gecko, but there will always be people who pay more based on name recognition. It's a fact, as sad as that may be. But no matter what I think of his prices, his high end Sunglows and Tangerine Tornadoes are still truly amazing to look at.

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

I think the point that was trying to be made was that (at least myself) it was thought that Sunglows/Hybinos/Hyglows were all the same thing (Super Hypo Tangerine Tremper Albinos). If that's true, then the 1 to 3 Star "Sunglows" listed on the site are nothing but Tangerine Trempers.

 

[Franks_Geckos]

I think the point that was trying to be made was that (at least myself) it was thought that Sunglows/Hybinos/Hyglows were all the same thing (Super Hypo Tangerine Tremper Albinos). If that's true, then the 1 to 3 Star "Sunglows" listed on the site are nothing but Tangerine Trempers.

I agree that while most believe Sunglows are supposed to be Super Hypo Tangerine Tremper Hybinos he is entitled to call his Tangerine Albinos whatever he wants because he was the first to use that morph name referencing Leopard Geckos. As he uses a Star rating system to differentiate between a high end and low end specimen, I guess that's his way to justify the difference. As you know, all of his Albinos are listed as Sunglows. The fact that almost all of the originals put up for sale were, in fact, excellent examples of Hybinos, alot of people started calling their Hybinos "Sunglows", when, in fact, Sunglow is nothing more than a name and as you can see, his 1 to 3 Star Sunglows are just Tangerine Trempers bands and all.

On a side note, Some people also claim that in order to be a "Sunglow" they have to have the Ray Hines Hypo gene in the bloodline. To that, I ask, "Says Who?" According to the people who claim that, if you cannot prove it has the Ray Hines Hypo gene, it is just a Hybino. Did Craig use Ray Hines name anywhere in his description of his Sunglows? I do not recall that being the case, but in any event, I would rather have an awesome Hybino any day of the week than a 150 dollar Tangerine Tremper that someone says is a "Sunglow".

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

I agree that while most believe Sunglows are supposed to be Super Hypo Tangerine Tremper Hybinos he is entitled to call his Tangerine Albinos whatever he wants because he was the first to use that morph name referencing Leopard Geckos.

I'm not argueing that they can or can't call them whatever they want (anyone can call anything whatever they want, it's up to the community as a whole to use or disgard a trade name however). I however think it needs to be consistant to avoid confusion.

On a side note, Some people also claim that in order to be a "Sunglow" they have to have the Ray Hines Hypo gene in the bloodline. To that, I ask, "Says Who?" According to the people who claim that, if you cannot prove it has the Ray Hines Hypo gene, it is just a Hybino. Did Craig use Ray Hines name anywhere in his description of his Sunglows?

That's a very interesting chunk of information. I've never heard that. From what I understand, it is impossible to tell the "Ray Hines" Hypos from Standards except when they are hatchlings. How would it be possible to even "prove" that it is a "Ray Hines?"

I would rather have an awesome Hybino any day of the week than a 150 dollar Tangerine Tremper that someone says is a "Sunglow".

I 100% agree! :main_thumbsup:

 

[Franks_Geckos]

In regards to that "Ray Hines Gene" being required for a Hybino to be called a Sunglow thing: I initially mentioned that because I find it humorous that people claimed that in the first place. I, like you, would like to know how someone will "prove" that it doesn't have the gene....lol

I would also pray nightly if I thought the community would adopt a standardized naming system, however, too many people want to differentiate their lines from others in the name of making cash and being held in high regard by others in the community. Therefore, I just go with the flow and call my geckos what I know they are, nothing more. The last thing the community needs is another morph name created as a marketing ploy to remember.

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

I would also pray nightly if I thought the community would adopt a standardized naming system, however, too many people want to differentiate their lines from others in the name of making cash and being held in high regard by others in the community. Therefore, I just go with the flow and call my geckos what I know they are, nothing more. The last thing the community needs is another morph name created as a marketing ploy to remember.

Frank, I really like how you think.

 

[Franks_Geckos]

Frank, I really like how you think.

Why, thank you. I try to be open minded in my observations, and I certainly do my best to honestly explain my thoughts (even though they are usually just tiny voices in my head) :main_evilgrin:

 

[Franks_Geckos]

Actually, now that I did some more digging, I found that there is also belief out there that in order to even be called a Hybino, the Ray Hines Hypo gene must be present, and then, only after introducing the carrot tail and tangerine color into the hybino through selective breeding would it be a "Sunglow". So, by that reasoning then, any SUPER HYPO TANGERINE CARROT TAIL HYBINO (Albino strain not important) could be called a SUNGLOW. I do not really buy into any of that so much though. I know my bloodlines have the Ray Hines Hypo gene in them as well as line bred tangerine and my Hybinos will only be called Hybinos, regardless of whether they are Trempers or Rainwaters (I don't have any Bells yet).