okay i hate to ask this question....

[OneFootedAce]

k..so im gunna sound kinda dumb askin this question, but is there an easy way to figure out what you'd get from a pairing of leos, i know theres recessive co-dom, dominant, etc by how do you figure out percenteges of offspring.
I've looked a bunch of different sites to see like this one:
http://www.geneticswizard.com/f_start_genetics_wizard.asp
but then it asks you the number of abnormal traits and if its homozygous (?) and that stuff, i understand most stuff but i cant figure out how to get percentages...

the leopardgeckowiki helped quite abit with combos, but doesnt explain the process of getting to the offspring (hets and stuff, then what to after the first time with the hets, like creamcles and dreamsickles)

breeding with hets just gets me confused lol

I feel bad for asking this dumb question, i tried to search it, but you guys know how the search engine is :S....
Sorry guys

 

[JordanAng420]

It's not a dumb question. It's actually a really good question. And I'd like to know the answer too, actually

 

[OneFootedAce]

lol...that makes me feel abit better about making a fool of myself

 

[DarthGekko]

I use it as follows:

If you have a male SHTCT x female Tangerine Enigma you would be listing 2 abnormal traits

1 for Tang and 1 for Enigma

You do have to know what morphs are Dominant, Recessive, Co Dom though. In regards to Polygenetic traits such as a Hypo Tangerine I always list it as a Dominant trait.

Just make sure to select enough abnormal slots for each gene represented to give you a calculation of chances. That is what this is..... calculated chance

Example:

Raptor Enigma x Mack Snow Raptor represents 3 traits


Good Luck!

 

[OneFootedAce]

wat exactly does homozygous mean though? cause it asks if its either homozygous, het or WT...i know wat het and wild type are but homozygous? and an example maybe

 

[BlackDiamondGeckos]

OK. WT is that no alleles are present, Het is that one allele is present and Homozygous means that both alleles are present. This varies for recessive, codominant and dominant genes.

So for Trempers (recessive)

If WT- it looks normal and carries no Tremper alleles. If Het- it looks normal but carries one Tremper allele. Homozygous- it looks Tremper and carries both Tremper alleles.

For Mack Snows (Codom)

If WT- it looks normal and carries no Snow alleles. If Het- it looks like a Mack Snow and carries one Snow Allele. Homozygous- it looks like a Mack Super Snow and carries both Snow Alleles.

For Enigmas (Dominant)

If WT- it looks normal and carries no Enigma alleles. If Het- it looks Enigma and carries one Enigma allele. Homozygous- it looks Enigma and carries both Enigma alleles.

Hope that answers your question. So for recessive traits animal must have both alleles present for that gene for it to show (must be homozygous- most traits work this way). For Codom traits there are two 'levels' of the trait- normal and super- so one allele present shows up and with both alleles present it shows up even more. For dominant traits as long as one allele is present then the trait will show through.

 

[OneFootedAce]

k so i tried the wizard for MS x enigma
so theres 2 abnormal genes present
Female mack snow = Co-dom
Male Enigma = dominant

Enigma = homozygous (?)
MS = you said het because a SS is homozygous and a MS is het cause it only has one trait, but its not possible to be het MS(thats wats comfusing me the most)...

Could you guys walk me through the wizard...
Sorry but im really comfused

http://www.geneticswizard.com/f_Genetics_Querybuilder.asp

OK. WT is that no alleles are present, Het is that one allele is present and Homozygous means that both alleles are present. This varies for recessive, codominant and dominant genes.

So for Trempers (recessive)

If WT- it looks normal and carries no Tremper alleles. If Het- it looks normal but carries one Tremper allele. Homozygous- it looks Tremper and carries both Tremper alleles.

For Mack Snows (Codom)

If WT- it looks normal and carries no Snow alleles. If Het- it looks like a Mack Snow and carries one Snow Allele. Homozygous- it looks like a Mack Super Snow and carries both Snow Alleles.

For Enigmas (Dominant)

If WT- it looks normal and carries no Enigma alleles. If Het- it looks Enigma and carries one Enigma allele. Homozygous- it looks Enigma and carries both Enigma alleles.

Hope that answers your question. So for recessive traits animal must have both alleles present for that gene for it to show (must be homozygous- most traits work this way). For Codom traits there are two 'levels' of the trait- normal and super- so one allele present shows up and with both alleles present it shows up even more. For dominant traits as long as one allele is present then the trait will show through.

 

[DarthGekko]

You should get The Herpetoculture of Leopard Geckos book. It explains genetics in the back of it.

 

[BlackDiamondGeckos]

Sure. You're right. There's no such thing as a het Snow. AS in there's no such thing as a normal het snow. A snow itself is a het snow. Do you understand the difference?

Ok for the genetics wizard (I use this all the time) you would choose 2 traits. Click build query. Type in Snow for the first one and click Codominant, and Enigma for the second and click Dominant. Male would be WT for snow and Het for enigma. Female would be Het for Snow and WT for enigma. Click ask and then you get the break down.

 

[OneFootedAce]

k so yes i understand the difference thanks

So this is what it gave me
25% WT
25% Het. enigmad,
25% Het. snowc,
25% Het. snowc, Het. enigmad,

does that really make sense? i dont see why it says het snow and enigma does it mean MS enigma (not hets)?

 

[randy p]

This is what I hatched from a Supersnow Albino X Enigma . 50% macksnows Enigmas and 50% snows .

 

[BlackDiamondGeckos]

Yup. That's right. And ya, the wizard will only tell you the genotypes, you have to decipher the phenotypes. That's why it has the superscript 'c' and 'd'.

So from that, 25% Normals, 25% Enigmas, 25% Snows, 25% Snow Enigmas.

 

[OneFootedAce]

k i understand it now thanks

 

[Boanerges]

WOW...leopard gecko genetics are WAY more confusing then ball pythons!!!

 

[OneFootedAce]

haha its definatly is comfusing, but i think i finally caught on