fuzzylogix
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looking for any information on dilution and dosing amounts of powdered panacur. got a bunch of bags free from my vet and want to start mixing up small batches for pre-emptive care. thanks.
Panacur advice
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personally i would not use it as a preventative. only use it if you run across a problem. i think some people over treat and over "sterilize" their animals. which i believe cause their immune system to beceom weaker, so when something does occur it effects them much harder.
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k, good advice. guess with that many leos now i just want all my babies to be in great health
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It'll take out beneficial gut fauna as much as nasty things, so definitely like Robin suggested, use it when there is a verified problem or an overwhelming probability of a problem (freshly WC imports or shipments from a huge wholesaler for example) rather than as a general preventative.
None of your bags have the sticker on them with the dosing instructions?
None of your bags have the sticker on them with the dosing instructions?
. quarantine new gecko ans try not to cross contaminate new geckos things to old geckos thing.
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nah, the only dosing instructions are for dogs on the baggies. and its more like granulated panacur, not powdered. didn't realize what they gave me until i got home
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The recommended dosing (as per Roger Klingenberg in his book "Understanding Reptile Parasites") is 25mg panacur/kg of animal or 10mg/lb.
ex) 1lb = 454g
gecko weighs 50g (50/454 = .11lbs)
(.11lb * 10mg/lb = 1.1mg dosage for gecko
That's the easy part. What you need to know is the concentration of panacur in your powder. I'd guess it'd be on the bag somewhere? Once you know the concentration you can figure out how to dilute it to the required 1.1mg dosage.
ex) The typical liquid panacur that a vet would give has a suspension of 100mg/ml.
So if you took 0.1ml of the supplied liquid panacur this would equal 10mg panacur in the 0.1ml solution. You could then take that 0.1ml solution and add it to say 5ml of water which would then give you a solution that has been diluted to 1ml = 2mg panacur......and so on
This is all paraphrased from Klingenberg's book
He also mentions though that Panacur is a really forgiving drug for reptile use so if you overdose slightly it's not going to harm your reptiles. He actually quotes some overdoses as high as 5000 times the normal showing no ill effects in mammals. He doesn't really say an overdose limit for reptiles but someone would seriously have to miss a decimal place to overdose something by 5000..lol I read this book after my vet gave me panacur for one of my girls and it turns out the dosage the vet gave me was almost 3 times what Klingenberg would give...so ya...my girl survived and all the pinworms were gone on the next fecal exam..lol
Good luck, hope that helps. Please keep in mind this is just what I read and I'm no where near being any type of vet or expert in reptile care!
Don't forget to have your pets spay or nuetered!
ex) 1lb = 454g
gecko weighs 50g (50/454 = .11lbs)
(.11lb * 10mg/lb = 1.1mg dosage for gecko
That's the easy part. What you need to know is the concentration of panacur in your powder. I'd guess it'd be on the bag somewhere? Once you know the concentration you can figure out how to dilute it to the required 1.1mg dosage.
ex) The typical liquid panacur that a vet would give has a suspension of 100mg/ml.
So if you took 0.1ml of the supplied liquid panacur this would equal 10mg panacur in the 0.1ml solution. You could then take that 0.1ml solution and add it to say 5ml of water which would then give you a solution that has been diluted to 1ml = 2mg panacur......and so on
This is all paraphrased from Klingenberg's book
He also mentions though that Panacur is a really forgiving drug for reptile use so if you overdose slightly it's not going to harm your reptiles. He actually quotes some overdoses as high as 5000 times the normal showing no ill effects in mammals. He doesn't really say an overdose limit for reptiles but someone would seriously have to miss a decimal place to overdose something by 5000..lol I read this book after my vet gave me panacur for one of my girls and it turns out the dosage the vet gave me was almost 3 times what Klingenberg would give...so ya...my girl survived and all the pinworms were gone on the next fecal exam..lol
Good luck, hope that helps. Please keep in mind this is just what I read and I'm no where near being any type of vet or expert in reptile care!
Don't forget to have your pets spay or nuetered!
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First of all, check for a date on the package to be sure it isn't close to expired. I was talking with my herp vet recently and he said there is a growing problem with animals becoming resistant to drug therapies due to overuse when not needed. The book mentioned above, Understanding Parasites, is the most comprehensive publication available for mixing and dispensing panacur for reptiles.
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