Parasites, Coccidia, or worse? HELP.

snakefin

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Hey there. I am a new member here who has kept two geckos for about a year, and needless to say, I have encountered severe problems. These two geckos will be denoted as Gecko A and B, and are both sick.

Gecko A
Came from a seller who kept him in a drawer system, 20 superworms once a week, spot cleaning once a week, on newspaper. I have kept him for about a year, on paper towers and A4 sheets, changing diet of superworms, crickets and mealworms due to a bad feeding response in a drawer like container, which lacks good ventilation, a mistake of mine which I will rectify as suggested. As I have come to realise, he has become incredibly emaciated. Why is this so?

Symptoms of illness for Gecko A:
Watery and smelly poop, resembles the second one from the right, of the second row of faecal samples of leopard geckos from this website: http://sleepydeegeckos.webs.com/health.htm
Used to pass greenish, mucus covered poop, which can also be found on the above website.
Used to pass out or perhaps regurgitate mealworms, which are clump together, bodies soft on the inside, caramel-brown in colour. This has also made it reject mealworms every since.
Lethargic.
Pencil thin tail.
Poor appetite.
Sheds often somehow.
Dull colour.


Gecko B
Origins unimportant. Has suffered from several bouts of eye infection but has since recovered. Same tank set-up. Whilst both set-ups have been kept side by side, and some contact has passed between the two geckos over the year (Did not suspect illness), it must be noted that Gecko B was only infected and lost its appetite about a week ago. Before that, it was everything a healthy gecko should be. Active, alert, plump and insatiable.

Symptoms of Gecko B
Used to pass out or perhaps regurgitate mealworms, which are clump together, bodies soft on the inside, caramel-brown in colour.
Excretion currently consisting of only Urates.
Dull colour present upon one day of infection.
Loss of appetite.
Lethargic.


I understand my mistakes and I would like you experts to help me rectify these problems. I think it would make sense if anyone were to be very pissed off with this situation. So, please help(!) in terms of disease identification, treatment and husbandry comments. Thank you.
 

snakefin

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Both geckos are males.
I am unsure of the weight, and the age as well, but based on length measurements they should be full grown, if not close to.
I handle Gecko B on an alternate day basis, whereas Gecko A gets less handling, averaging at about every three days or so.

They are housed in a plastic container roughly 50 x 20 x15 each.
Paper towel laid over A4 substrate.
Plastic container lined with moistened tissues for each gecko.

No heating used, as I live in a tropical country where the temperature gradient reaches the higher end of the leopard gecko "spectrum".
Temperatures checked and measured with thermo with probe.
No lights used.

Gecko A eats far too variably, but on average, he only has the stomach for 2-3 crickets alternate daily.
Gecko B used to eat like a cow, about 15 mealworms daily.
Zoomed multivitamin and calcium supplements, about thrice weekly.
Food items gutloaded with fish food and occasional zoomed sprinkle.
 

Enigmatic_Reptiles

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Have fecals done on them and you will find an answer very easily. I bring in random samples from my colonies and every addition I get to my colonies. Its amazing what you may find and who you find it from. Most reptiles/animals have some worms or parasites of some sort...but if I were you I would have a fecal done on them. We can speculate all day but in reality it may be more than one issue at hand and we cant treat what we don't diagnose. That's just what I would suggest.
 

snakefin

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I am indeed intending to do that, which will take out time and money for my geckos for the third time. Husbandry wise am I doing anything wrong, and anyone wants to give a good speculation in which I can find some basis on?
 

fl_orchidslave

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When a leopard gecko is reaching maturity, their appetite changes and they don't eat as much or as often. Your parasite questions can only be confirmed by a vet after running a fecal test. Any mistakes you're making husbandry wise are not going to fix a potential parasite situation.

A temperature gradient means one area of an enclosure is warmer than the other. If it's all the same temperature, there is no gradient.
 

snakefin

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Nah, as you will see from the symptoms and length of time, I think maturity off feeding is out of the picture. I will fix the temperature gradient issues. Alright, come'on, I need actual comments on the situation please.
 

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