People I work with....Argggg!

[Jeanne]

LMAO, never said it was classy, just said that I'm actually comfortable in those situations....now if they were doing it in front of say, a customer, different cup of tea...but when it's in the privacy of an office where no one who's not part of the company can hear, it wouldn't bother me as much...I'm, however, the kind of person who at least says to my coworkers "if anything I say bothers you, please let me know...I'll turn it down a bit" and I have in the past, cause trust me I've caused a few shocked faces in my short life LOL

I understand that, but customers call the office constantly, and it isn't a big office, so they hear what goes on in the background. I was on the phone once with a customer, and one of the guys walked behind my desk and yelled "F#ck", luckily I was on hold, but if I wasn't, the customer would have heard that and probably complained.

We get yearly bonuses, which I depend on GREATLY. If customers start complaining, then we are all going to lose our bonuses as an office. Let me tell you, if that happens, they are going to see a side of me that they wished they never saw....Fists will be a flying :main_angry:

 

[Val]

Jeanne, I feel your pain on this one 100%. I work in the accounting office at a very busy car dealership, and I'll be the first one to insure you that everything you hear about them is true. I work in a small office that has 4 other girls in it, not only do I have to deal with the crap that spews from them, but then I get the service men, and the worst..the car sales men and the general manager.

While I'm in the office I have to listen to what the accounting girls 'did' with their husbands/boyfriends the night before. I really don't care nor do I need to know that. But beyond that, they always ask me personal questions to get that kind of info out of me because I don't participate in their conversation. They KNOW it bothers me, and they think it's funny-so some days they make it an all day afair to torture me with way to much information.

Then, when I have to leave the office it gets worse. There's one sales man who asks me everyday when I'm going to sleep with him who is old enough to be my father. Then just the other day, I had to get glasses and four of them had me blocked in a hallway while they told me how sexy I looked with them on, and to make a long story short told me that I should wear a school girl uniform to the christmas party with my '18 year old assests' hanging out, and that would be perfect. Being the youngest girl working there I guess I'm their target, but it's all day everyday and no matter where I go in that building. There are things that are just NOT work appropriate, and as the youngest employee there you would think the others would be saying that about me.

I almost walked out the other day because of my tyrant boss, and I won't get into that whole story or this post will be incredibly long. But I have been looking for a job for quite some time, and I know how hard it is. When you find one that sounds decent, the pay is awful. That's the only thing that kept me from leaving this week. No one should have to put up with being harassed at work. I just want to go in at 8, do my job until 5 and go home.

 

[Jeanne]

I just want to go in at 8, do my job until 5 and go home.

RIGHT ON!

 

[LadyGecko]

There sure seems to be one hell of a lot of "unprofessional behavior" in the "professional" work world out there
The word restraint comes to mind and I believe that any "releasing done" would be more appropriate outside of the office
The conduct that has been described in this thread ranges from outright sexual harassment to just plain juvenile behavior
Those guys need to "Grow Up" but that's not likely to happen anytime soon

I really feel for anyone of any sex that has to put up with that kind of abuse-because it is abusive behavior-and it is unfortunate that resolving such situations is not as cut and dried as the movies make it look
Good Luck with resolving the problems or finding new jobs

Sandy

 

[Perefalcon]

Jeanne, I feel your pain on this one 100%. I work in the accounting office at a very busy car dealership, and I'll be the first one to insure you that everything you hear about them is true. I work in a small office that has 4 other girls in it, not only do I have to deal with the crap that spews from them, but then I get the service men, and the worst..the car sales men and the general manager.

While I'm in the office I have to listen to what the accounting girls 'did' with their husbands/boyfriends the night before. I really don't care nor do I need to know that. But beyond that, they always ask me personal questions to get that kind of info out of me because I don't participate in their conversation. They KNOW it bothers me, and they think it's funny-so some days they make it an all day afair to torture me with way to much information.

Then, when I have to leave the office it gets worse. There's one sales man who asks me everyday when I'm going to sleep with him who is old enough to be my father. Then just the other day, I had to get glasses and four of them had me blocked in a hallway while they told me how sexy I looked with them on, and to make a long story short told me that I should wear a school girl uniform to the christmas party with my '18 year old assests' hanging out, and that would be perfect. Being the youngest girl working there I guess I'm their target, but it's all day everyday and no matter where I go in that building. There are things that are just NOT work appropriate, and as the youngest employee there you would think the others would be saying that about me.

I almost walked out the other day because of my tyrant boss, and I won't get into that whole story or this post will be incredibly long. But I have been looking for a job for quite some time, and I know how hard it is. When you find one that sounds decent, the pay is awful. That's the only thing that kept me from leaving this week. No one should have to put up with being harassed at work. I just want to go in at 8, do my job until 5 and go home.

Oh Val, I know a lawyer who would just loooooove to get a hold of a case like yours....that is such blatent harrassment.....I had a friend who put up with that....know what I did......I went in there while she was working and saw them bothering her, shoved them out of the way and said "If you talk like that to my sister ever again, my husband, who happens to be a lawyer will be servin all of you with papers to show up in court and I don't think that it'll look that good on your work history" (something like that)

 

[Stitch]

I really do feel for you girls......ladies. If my wife / girlfriend (I am married by the way) came home and told me she was being treated the way you women are being treated. I would do everything in my power to make sure it was stopped. If you can't legally tape them without telling them then hell I'd tell them that I'm taping them from now on and do it too. So if they blurt out an inappropriate comment then it's caught and if they start threatening because of the tape well hell they would be caught at that too. You have a right to work comfortably in the workplace, you should not be the one leaving, it should be them.

This may not sit well with some women and it's hard to explain. But women get the rights that tend to help them and not the ones that won't. Here is a scenario that I feel women should have to deal with too.

Obviously when I (being a male) turned 18 I had to "enlist" in the army in case there ever was a draft. Well I feel that if women want the rights that men have they should have to "enlist" too. I don't care for war much and never had the desire to join, so I didn't.

I hope that made sense and it has nothing to do with the harrasment debate that's going on, NO ONE male or female should have to put up with that!

 

[Jeanne]

Obviously when I (being a male) turned 18 I had to "enlist" in the army in case there ever was a draft. Well I feel that if women want the rights that men have they should have to "enlist" too. I don't care for war much and never had the desire to join, so I didn't.

I hope that made sense and it has nothing to do with the harrasment debate that's going on, NO ONE male or female should have to put up with that!

Do you have to enlist when there isn't a war going on, or is it only at war time? I am actually surprised that women don't have to enlist as well.

 

[Russ S]

What i believe he is referring to is registering for selective service when he turned 18. As I understand it he feels Females should also have to register.

 

[Dottie]

It isn't a matter of equal rights here, it's a matter of a hostile work environment. That is against the law. A well documented diary is all you need for evidence. I cannot believe your HR didn't deal with the situation - it could come back and seriously bite them in the butt. Once you ask someone to stop an offensive behavior and they do not, it becomes illegal. I don't think that there should be "guys" jobs and "girls" jobs. We should get to do what job we are able to do and competent to do. I work in a "guy" job and I put up with a lot of stuff and I have to keep proving myself almost every day. But I am one of those women who will not take crap - especially if I can do my job better than the yahoos i work with.
Dorcas

 

[sportbike_rob]

in my situation, being that i work in a warehouse......i use strong language and innapropriate behavior all the time.....i have fun at work, and everybody gets along and everybody uses the same strong language and innapropriate talk too. however in an office situation such as yours that would bother me alot...there is a time and a place for everything..... your office isnt the time or place for that behavior, and something needs to be done about the people who are bothering you, and possibly the customers over the phone.

 

[sarahlynn]

This may not sit well with some women and it's hard to explain. But women get the rights that tend to help them and not the ones that won't. Here is a scenario that I feel women should have to deal with too.

Obviously when I (being a male) turned 18 I had to "enlist" in the army in case there ever was a draft. Well I feel that if women want the rights that men have they should have to "enlist" too. I don't care for war much and never had the desire to join, so I didn't.

I hope that made sense and it has nothing to do with the harrasment debate that's going on, NO ONE male or female should have to put up with that!

i don't feel like these women are asking for "equality" because they are women, i think they are asking for freedom from harrasment because they are human. it's a basic human right(at least according to the law books in our country) male or female to be able to say no to unwanted behavior and if you must go into the whole "equality" issue, i do believe that sexual harrasment policies in the workplace are the same whether its men harrasing woman or woman harrasing men or any other combination of harrasment thus equality with that situation. i'm sure there may be a time and a place for further discussion on equal rights between men and woman but lets remember when it comes to our own personal bodies and selves we all have the same rights no matter what gender we may be.

 

[geckocraze]

Well, i dont have that much to say, but if there able to ba talking and swearing the whole time, cant you listen to an I-pod, or does that interfear with the standards or how your jobs goes about acomplising its task?

 

[Stitch]

Do you have to enlist when there isn't a war going on, or is it only at war time? I am actually surprised that women don't have to enlist as well.

Males have to enlist regardless of war. It puts our name on a list just in case there ever is a draft. Women join the war only if they want to.

sarahlynn, some people were previously talking about equal rights and that's what my enlisting argument was meant towards, take a look at my last sentence...

I hope that made sense and it has nothing to do with the harrasment debate that's going on, NO ONE male or female should have to put up with that!

And with me being married I would not let harassment continue if my wife told me it was happening to her.