phantom x normal

[adam&nikki]

what are the possible out comes of this cross phantom female and a normal male?

 

[Tony C]

TUG Snows, TUG Snow hypos, normals, and hypos, all het for Tremper albino.

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

I believe it should be something like this:

1.) 25% of hatchlings will be Snow het Tremper with various degrees of Tang and Hypo influence.
2.) 75% of hatchlings will be Normal het Tremper with various degrees of Tang and Hypo influence.

 

[Tony C]

The ratios will vary based on whether the Phantom is heterozygous or homozygous TUG Snow and Hypo.

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

Ummmmm ... Tang and Hypo are line bred traits.

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

Yes but the TUG snow is not. Thus the hetero or homo form of the TUG would influence the snow percentages.

 

[Tony C]

Ummmmm ... Tang and Hypo are line bred traits.

The current consensus seems to be that hypo is a dominant trait.

 

[adam&nikki]

sooo its a lil confusing then eh? when she has her eggs and they hatch ill post pics lol

 

[Gazz]

The aim of the Phamtom as far as i can make out was a Talbino hypo snow.Though meny aren't all three traits.

[1CH,1CS]Talbino hypo snow X Normal = .

Normal HET Talbino.
[1C]Hypo HET Talbino.
[1C]Snow HET Talbino.
[1CH,1CS]Hypo snow HET Talbino.
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[2CH,1CS]Talbino hypo snow X Normal = .

[1C]Hypo HET Talbino.
[1CH,1CS]Hypo snow HET Talbino.
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[1CH,2CS]Talbino hypo snow X Normal = .

[1C]Snow HET Talbino.
[1CH,1CS]Hypo snow HET Talbino.
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[2CH,2CS]Talbino hypo snow X Normal = .

[1CH,1CS]Hypo snow HET Talbino.

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

The current consensus seems to be that hypo is a dominant trait.

Can you refer me to an actual thread or discussion? Because all the online references I'm able to find don't state anything about dominant genetics in relation to Hypomelanism.

 

[Tony C]

This thread has a good discussion about it.

A little toward the end of this one.

Also, both the Love Geckos and Million Dollar Geckos genetics calculators treat Hypo as a dominant trait. I don't have any personal experience with them to say either way, I was just going with what seems to be the current thought on their genetics.

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

Thanks for providing that, Tony. Sorry that I'm completely derailing the discussion.

I think Hypo is worthy of it's own thread. There are folks that have been in the hobby far longer than those sources, and they state Hypo is polygenic. I know, based on my own observation and the observations of long-time breeders, which sources I deem credible.

 

[cassadaga]

There are both line bred and dominant types of hypos. The dominant type, also known as the ghost, was founded by Ray Hine and is also where the carrot tail trait originated. There are several selective bred lines also, and even the Hine's have been selective bred to be cleaner and more colorful.

 

[Wandering Paddle]

interesting side note... I once heard from a very reliable source that the Ray Hines Hypos, or ghosts, were brought in with a group of wild caught animals.