Phantoms

[JayLeo57]

What exactly is the make-up of this morph

 

[Nigel4less]

TUG Snow x Tremper Albino basically the equivalent to a Mack Snow Tremper Albino just in Urban Gecko form.

 

[JayLeo57]

i had i feeling it was a tremper pastel

 

[Nigel4less]

Its not a pastel its just a TUG Snow Tremper Albino

 

[Halley]

http://www.theurbangecko.com/leopard_phantom.html

If you read all the way through this, it gives an explanation of what they used. They crossed their snow line, with a super-hypo carrot-tail. I'm assuming that, the CT was also from their line. Then they got a gecko with just a little bit of pattern. Then they breed it to their sunglow line. That is where it gets its tremper from. So pretty much it only consists of one gene (tremper albino), and three line breed traits. Tang, CT, LBS.

 

[boywonder]

thought tug snows were a dominant morph not a line bread trait?

 

[Halley]

thought tug snows were a dominant morph not a line bread trait?

In my believe it is kind of both. They bought a wild caught group, then line breed those geckos.

We acquired this incredible gene pool as a wild-caught group several years ago and we have been selectively breeding them ever since.

From our breeding results, we believe our bloodline is a type of axanthic, a genetic trait where the subject has little or no yellow pigment. In most cases this trait has been proven to be recessive but in our group, we believe it to be dominant.

This sound to me that they think the white color is dominate. From looking at offspring offered, I believe differently. However I have never done test breeding with there line. So I guess some think it is a dominate trait, I think that it is line breed.

 

[the_angel_007]

Im really disepoited on the Phantoms.
I baught 1.1 5 stars last year and today they are noting like the urbans breeders
Look here:

As I sayd, they looks nothing like the urbans breeders.
I have e-mailed urbans severel times but no reply, really bad!

 

[LadyGecko]

Marie-I went and looked at UG's Phantom breeder page and at their available page at both the available and sold ones

As you said-there is a big difference between their breeders and your Geckos
While your Geckos are beautiful- theirs do look a lot paler

I don't know how this morph was promoted as far as their projected progeny would look like and I guess that you can't really guarantee what offspring will turn out to look like but I don't see the "frosted" look in your two geckos that the pics show on their website

Perhaps these two bred together will produce the Phantoms that you are looking for??

I am surprised at their lack of response

I would just keep e-mailing them or give them a call if the cost of that is not too expensive

Good Luck with them

Sandy

 

[boywonder]

Im really disepoited on the Phantoms.
I baught 1.1 5 stars last year and today they are noting like the urbans breeders
Look here:

As I sayd, they looks nothing like the urbans breeders.
I have e-mailed urbans severel times but no reply, really bad!

looks like you didn't keep them warm enough or cooled them every night, chocolate phantoms yum

 

[the_angel_007]

looks like you didn't keep them warm enough or cooled them every night, chocolate phantoms yum

And what is that supose to meen?

 

[Halley]

looks like you didn't keep them warm enough or cooled them every night, chocolate phantoms yum

I don't get this either. I know that some tremper albinos can change color, however this coloring changing normally stops within a month or two, as far as I know, and I don’t think it is normally that dramatic of a change either. And to add to this, TUG normally doesn’t sell geckos under 25-30 grams. I seriously doubt the reason theses geckos look like, is due to poor husbandry.

If I was in your shoes Marie, I would DEMAND my money back. You didn’t end up with 5 star geckos. They really don’t look much different than regular tremper albinos. This would upset me if I where you. I would ask them either for a refund, or for a new pair of geckos.

 

[Franks_Geckos]

They don't even look like Albinos much less Snow Albinos (Phantoms).

 

[Ccrashca069]

If they still don't respond its all about posting on the Bio about them.

 

[the_angel_007]

I don't get this either. I know that some tremper albinos can change color, however this coloring changing normally stops within a month or two, as far as I know, and I don’t think it is normally that dramatic of a change either. And to add to this, TUG normally doesn’t sell geckos under 25-30 grams. I seriously doubt the reason theses geckos look like, is due to poor husbandry.

If I was in your shoes Marie, I would DEMAND my money back. You didn’t end up with 5 star geckos. They really don’t look much different than regular tremper albinos. This would upset me if I where you. I would ask them either for a refund, or for a new pair of geckos.

I have as I sayd e-mailed them severel times with no respons
Asked aboute why my 5 star leos not even simerly looks like there breeders they have.
No, the husbandry are not the problem!

Bio??

 

[Halley]

I have as I sayd e-mailed them severel times with no respons

oops, didn't read the whole thread, sorry. Did you try getting him on the phone, or just by e-mail?

The bio, is a fuana things, that allows people to tell the bad experince they have had so nobody else has to go throught the same thing, well at lest a couple of people will not.

 

[the_angel_007]

oops, didn't read the whole thread, sorry. Did you try getting him on the phone, or just by e-mail?

The bio, is a fuana things, that allows people to tell the bad experince they have had so nobody else has to go throught the same thing, well at lest a couple of people will not.

No problems!

My english are not the best spoken, better wrighting as I can formulat it better.

Every e-mail I have sent to them before has been replyed, but now when I have some "disturbing" questions aboute there Phantoms they just stop replying.

 

[Ccrashca069]

Here is the link to the Bio http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?&f=13

If they stopped responding to you, maybe they know they sent you low quallity and took advantage of you living in Sweden.

 

[the_angel_007]

Thanx for the link.
Will give them a bit more time.

 

[Stitch]

Just FYI guys & gals, it's BOI (Board Of Inquiry) not bio. The link to Fauna will get you to it.