Quik egg help

[Dragonslare]

Hey,
Need some advice or thoughts, I could be over re-acting, but I just want to make sure about this.
Ive been breeding dragons now for sometime and when it time for those little ones to pop from their egg, they make a quik cut and then push there nose out,little by little more of them well emerge from there egg, this may take awhile but, I could always see what was happening.
ive also been working with Leo's and Cresties and with them, they seem to pop out faster, making their cut,pushing there nose out and with in a short time, there out, Ive even had them shoot out of the egg when I would look in and check on them, so for me this concern is new.


I'm working with Chinese Cave Gecko's and what seams like an eternity on them popping out,finally I'm seeing something happen.
Wednesday when I got home from work 12:30pm I checked on the lizard room and found a liquid droplet on top of one egg,about 1/4" dia. I was concerned it was a heavy water droplet but wasn't, I left it alone. 1 hour later (1:30pm) I checked on the egg and the drop was gone and left it alone, around 5:30pm I checked and it seamed the egg had gotten a little smaller and there was a air gap between the outer shell and the Vermiculite, then I noticed a small dimple on top, I'm think'in it's gone to be soon, even noticed a few very small liquid specks (sparkled like diamond chips, sweating? Ive never seen this) well here it's Thursday 5:30 pm and nothing has happened in the last 24 hours.


I'm I worrying no much? Has this happened to others with good results? When should I take matters into my own hands and starting thinking about making that small cut to help thing along? (I'm not a big fan of doing this,but ...if it'll help) I been waiting a very !! long time for my Cave's.

Now it Friday, two full days since the egg started leaking a small amount of fluid and nothing more has happened,haven't even noticed any movement inside, anyone here ever make the small cut? how? and where?


Joe

 

[acpart]

Consider moving this to "other geckos" in case the problem is specific to cave geckos. Otherwise, hard as it is to do, if the gecko can't make it out of the egg on its own, it's better to let it not survive rather than getting into that sticky situation of having a weak or deformed hatchling that you have to figure out what to do with.

Aliza

 

[Dragonslare]

hey,
Thanks for the fast reply
This was the only section that targeted egg questions and its not so much that this involves a Cave Gecko egg, but addresses egg concerns, I have heard about breeders needing to assist their hatchlings with good results, and even though Ive got concerns about the subject, sometimes something is better than nothing and just sitting back a watching, if it's still alive and doesn't hatch out ,it will die and even if making the pip gives it a 1% chance its still better then none, I myself would rather let it hatch out on it's terms, what I'm hoping to get answered here is if others found them selves in similar situations and it worked out fine by waiting, . Has anyone else had a egg leak out fluid(small amount) dimple in and then hatch out a few (or even more) days later. It's very frustrating to have waited so long, not only for the eggs to get to this point, but it took me six+ months to final find females, even though I have Leo's, Cresties and Halmahera's, Cave gecko's to me are what Leo's and Cresties are to others.
I know the final decision will be mine, I'm just looking for some quik advice and thoughts before time runs out, if it hasn't already. ( how did they do it, where did they make the small cut? how big of a cut?)

Joe

 

[ZooKeeperKarin]

I had an egg last week in which the baby had died. I was quite sure it had passed, but wanted to be sure.
I candled it to see if there was an area that wasn't as dark as the rest, so hopefully there was no body mass there. I used one of those pen-type razor blades. Almost as soon as I put an pressure on the egg with the blade it slit open a tiny bit. I waited to see if there was movement of any kind. There wasn't, so I very carefully cut a bit more. I had to hold the already slit part with tweezers while I cut.
This baby had passed and was fully formed.

 

[Dragonslare]

Hey,
Here it is Monday afternoon, Five days since one of my cave gecko egg started to leak,shortly after that the egg started to dimple, now five days later the egg has pulled in farther and has turned a very dark dirty brown! fearing the worse, I decide to look at one more time closer, Ive thrown out confirmed lost eggs that looked a whole lot better than this one, but I gave the smell test and it smelled like a lizard egg, so I grabbed the pen light and went into the dark hallway, all I saw was total black, moved the egg around, just solid black, kept moving it and I came across one spot where a little bit of light shined threw and then I lost it, moved the egg around a little more found another light spot, only this time I watched the spot disappear, the little bugger is still moving.

any ides how long a hatchling can hold on with the egg already shriveled down as far as it is ? even if the hatchling is healthy, could the shell be so thick, that it cant pip its way out? Ive heard that Leachie breeders have to help there hatchling pip out,due to thick walled shell, can anyone share info on this.

Joe