Rainwater + tremper ?

[kooteepee]

Heys,i understand that u cannot breed a temper albino to rainwater albino or vice versa. The results will be some un attractive leos. However will it be compatible if i breed a (rainwater) tangerine to a aptor male ( tremper) ?

Thank you in advance !

 

[LeapinLizards]

Nope, same explanation. And it's not "unattractive leos" you will get, but simply normals, no morphs out of it. The 3 strains of albino do not mix at ALL.

 

[kooteepee]

Nope, same explanation. And it's not "unattractive leos" you will get, but simply normals, no morphs out of it. The 3 strains of albino do not mix at ALL.

Thanks buddy, though i had a similar answer in mind i was really hoping for it to be otherwise.

 

[Halley]

Breed the F1s together, and you could get something out of them.

 

[kooteepee]

Breed the F1s together, and you could get something out of them.

Care to elaborate more on that? LIke who could i possibly get.

I was wishin for a tangerin het aptor, and bred back to get a more tangerine influence aptor.

 

[lamarr]

f1

Breeding the F1 double hets would throw a mix of both albino strains each het for the other. I'll bet you somebody here can tell you what the odds are of hitting the red eyed albino again but not me

 

[Gazz]

Normal HET Ralbino,Talbino X Normal HET Ralbino,Talbino = .

1/16 Normal.
2/16 Normal HET Ralbino.
1/16 Ralbino.
2/16 Normal HET Talbino.
4/16 Normal HET Talbino & Ralbino.
2/16 Ralbino HET Talbino.
1/16 Talbino.
2/16 Talbino HET Ralbino.
1/16 TalbinoRalbino:main_thumbsup:

I beleave this is right:main_huh:.

 

[kooteepee]

Normal HET Ralbino,Talbino X Normal HET Ralbino,Talbino = .

1/16 Normal.
2/16 Normal HET Ralbino.
1/16 Ralbino.
2/16 Normal HET Talbino.
4/16 Normal HET Talbino & Ralbino.
2/16 Ralbino HET Talbino.
1/16 Talbino.
2/16 Talbino HET Ralbino.
1/16 TalbinoRalbino:main_thumbsup:

I beleave this is right:main_huh:.

Thanks for the breakdown of possible buddy. !

R u suggestin the only positive or best i could achieve in this project is the Tremper albino rainwater albino ? What is it anyway, some sort of rainwater series for aptor?

 

[Paco]

Those are not correct out comes. The strains are INCOMPATIBLE with each other. Other wise you would get Albino's out of the the original pairing.

You would only get either Rainwater's and or Tremper's from breeding the offspring of the original pair. No Tremper/Rainwater offspring would result.

There are many people starting to work on the Typhoon, which is A Rainwater Eclipse. A few Breeders have isolated the Eclipse trait and are crossing it into the other strains of Albino's.

Hope this helps a bit.

 

[kooteepee]

Those are not correct out comes. The strains are INCOMPATIBLE with each other. Other wise you would get Albino's out of the the original pairing.

You would only get either Rainwater's and or Tremper's from breeding the offspring of the original pair. No Tremper/Rainwater offspring would result.

There are many people starting to work on the Typhoon, which is A Rainwater Eclipse. A few Breeders have isolated the Eclipse trait and are crossing it into the other strains of Albino's.

Hope this helps a bit.

Thanks for the feedback Paco. IN your opinion i shouldnt be working on this pairing as the only outcome is albino of the respective strain right? Could you share more bout the typhoon morph?

 

[Gazz]

Those are not correct out comes. The strains are INCOMPATIBLE with each other. Other wise you would get Albino's out of the the original pairing.

It's perfectly possible to get a leo that (HOMO)Ralbino & (HOMO)Talbino.In the same manner as you get the banana blizzard-aka-Blizzardpatternless that's (HOMO)Blizzard & (HOMO)Patternless.

RalbinoTalbino X Ralbino = 100%Ralbino HET Talbino.
&
RalbinoTalbino X Talbino = 100%Talbino HET Ralbino.

 

[daniellebluetoo]

WHAT!>!>!>>!

a banana blizz is a blizz x murphy patternless?????

I've never heard this!

 

[Gazz]

a banana blizz is a blizz x murphy patternless?????

I've never heard this!

Not blizzard cross M_patternless.

There blizzard AND M_patternless.

Created by crossing a blizzard with a M_patternless resulting in normal HET blizzard,M_patternless offspring.Then back breed them and a banana blizzard-aka-blizzardpatternless is one of the possible offspring.

However there are a lot of hi-yellow blizzards that are being tagged as banana blizzard there are incorrect.As a banana blizzard is (HOMO)blizzard & (HOMO)M_patternless.

 

[daniellebluetoo]

well of COURSE thats what I meant

but again, i've NEVER heard of that.
How would you go about proving that a gecko WAS homo for both blizz and Mpatty?

they would be born white or that weird Mpatty newborn pattern?>????

Interesting.......

 

[Gregg M]

You can tell a true banana blizz when you compare it to the fake ones... A true banana blizz is pretty much born with a yellow body with a grey/light grey head and tail... They will not have spots like a patternless hatchling..

Those are not correct out comes. The strains are INCOMPATIBLE with each other. Other wise you would get Albino's out of the the original pairing.

Actually he is 100% correct and this statement is incorrect... It is possible for a leo to be homo for 2 strains of albino just like it is possible for a leo to be homo for albino and blizzard (blazing blizzard) or homo for patternles and albino (patternless albino)

 

[Gazz]

How would you go about proving that a gecko WAS homo for both blizz and Mpatty?

Best and real one and only way IMO is to test breed.

Blizzardpatternless X Blizzard = 100%Blizzard HET patternless.
Blizzardpatternless X Patternless = 100%Patternless HET blizzard.

(HI YELLOW)Blizzard X Blizzard = 100%blizzard
(HI YELLOW)Blizzard X Patternless = Normal HET bliizard & patternless.

 

[kooteepee]

It's perfectly possible to get a leo that (HOMO)Ralbino & (HOMO)Talbino.In the same manner as you get the banana blizzard-aka-Blizzardpatternless that's (HOMO)Blizzard & (HOMO)Patternless.

RalbinoTalbino X Ralbino = 100%Ralbino HET Talbino.
&
RalbinoTalbino X Talbino = 100%Talbino HET Ralbino.

hey GAzz, so accordin to your calculation. What will i be able to get eventually with my Aptor x Hg tang female pairin. I understand i will get normal with hets of ralbino or t albino. When i cross them up. What could i expect?

 

[Paco]

You can tell a true banana blizz when you compare it to the fake ones... A true banana blizz is pretty much born with a yellow body with a grey/light grey head and tail... They will not have spots like a patternless hatchling..



Actually he is 100% correct and this statement is incorrect... It is possible for a leo to be homo for 2 strains of albino just like it is possible for a leo to be homo for albino and blizzard (blazing blizzard) or homo for patternles and albino (patternless albino)

Gregg in theory you can come up this animal. I am not saying it's not possible. If someone want to waste their time trying to prove it out they are more than welcome.

This is the same situation as the Homozygous Enigma. It does not exist( as of now) and until it's proven it's just speculation. Nothing more. And it confuses people who are not genetics experts(which is where I fall non expert) and or beginners in the hobby to explain things like they happen everyday, when in fact it has not been proven. At least tell people we that it's only speculation at this point until it's proven out

I know for a fact people have been trying to cross different strains of albino Balls years ago and I have not heard of the Double Homo Albino yet and or the Homozygous spider yet. If it is so easy as far as numbers and calculations to come up with this combo there should be hundreds out there by now. But there is Not even one as of yet. I guarantee the big breeders did not give up after just the first breeding either they run these projects until they disprove them.

 

[Paco]

hey GAzz, so accordin to your calculation. What will i be able to get eventually with my Aptor x Hg tang female pairin. I understand i will get normal with hets of ralbino or t albino. When i cross them up. What could i expect?

I will say don't bother with the cross. It is a waste if time and resources. You are better off not crossing different albino strains. Most breeder's do not do this or recommend it. Ask around.

My suggestion would be to find a non het Eclipse male and start the Typhoon project the correct way and not mix strains. JMO

If you want to cross strains you are more than welcome to, though. Just make sure if you sell the offspring to let the buyer know they are multi-strain Albino's.

 

[kooteepee]

I will say don't bother with the cross. It is a waste if time and resources. You are better off not crossing different albino strains. Most breeder's do not do this or recommend it. Ask around.

My suggestion would be to find a non het Eclipse male and start the Typhoon project the correct way and not mix strains. JMO

If you want to cross strains you are more than welcome to, though. Just make sure if you sell the offspring to let the buyer know they are multi-strain Albino's.

Alrite. thanks so much for ur advise buddy !