raptor x raptor question

[desertgecko]

Sorry if this is a silly question, I'm still trying to understand genetics lol

If you breed a RAPTOR x RAPTOR will you get 100% RAPTORs? From what I know the parents are raptor x raptor (males parents) and raptor x sunglow het giant (females parents).

Thanks

 

[Nigel4less]

Well if your Females Parents are RAPTOR x Sunglow, then they would be Hybinos/Sunglows Het RAPTOR. Also the person you bought the female from misinformed you, the Giant Morph is Co-Dominant so a Het Giant would be impossible...

 

[desertgecko]

ok thanks, could be I misunderstood. Not entirely sure on the females parents as I cannot remember lol, pretty sure thats right though.

So the giant gene isn't passed on? Thats ok, I was just wondering. I was more interesed in finding out what the chances of getting raptors with my two.

 

[supperl]

well you would have Raptor*het Raptor
If you mean Raptor as Red eyed Albino aka Eclipse Albino so you would have a 50% chance on getting an Albino Eclipse(red eyed) Gecko. The pattern will varie(Jungles maybe striped and so on)

 

[paulnj]

post images if you can

but if you have 2 raptors and one came from sunglow het raptor X raptor, well you very well may have a redeyed sunglow and a raptor.

 

[dprince]

Sorry if this is a silly question, I'm still trying to understand genetics lol

If you breed a RAPTOR x RAPTOR will you get 100% RAPTORs?

Thanks

That has not been my experience. I have a full red eyed RAPTOR x full red eyed RAPTOR and have hatched some amazing RAPTORs *AND* APTORS.

 

[Brhaco]

RAPTOR X RAPTOR would produce 100% RAPTORS only IF all the component morphs of a RAPTOR were simple recessives.

But of course that is not the case .....

 

[desertgecko]

Thanks for the replies. Here are some pics of the female. I didn't know you could get red eyed sunglows that look like raptors the raptor morph is still fairly new to me. She has 1 full red eye and 1 snake eye. Sorry, the pics arent the best.

Her eye is red, I just can't take photos lol

Even if she is a sunglow het raptor, she's still pretty

Thanks for the help

 

[Wezul]

Looks like a Raptor to me...but I'm no expert. A red-eyed sunglow should have bands around the tail and your's appears to have a striped tail.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Pretty little girl BTW!

 

[paulnj]

That's a broker redeyed reverse stripe (RERS) technically.... BUT IT'S A RAPTOR by most people's standards.

 

[Wezul]

A rose by any other name smells as sweet.
Is it a RERS because it has a pattern on it's back?, or do you mean the term RAPTOR is technically inaccurate?

 

[paulnj]

Well, I call it a Raptor, but some purists define it as a RERS with a broken stripe. The stripe is degraded enough for me to call it RAPTOR, but others may disagree.

A raptor is a combo morph of tremper lines, but the term raptor have been used to discride patterned eclipse eyed albinos lately such as " jungle raptor". A jungle raptor is an incorrect term due to a raptor discribing a gecko without a pattern by definition, but most understand what is being said.

 

[desertgecko]

Thanks you guys, I think I'm beginning to understand although it's all a tad confusing lol I'm glad she can still be classed as a RAPTOR as that is what I paid for. Whats the difference between a RERS and a RAPTOR? Just the stripe (or broken stripes) down the back?

 

[paulnj]

a true RERS has a stripe down it's back and is otherwise a raptor.

Sorry to confuse you, I get a bit carried away sometimes:main_laugh:

 

[Wezul]

Thanks Paul,
That's what was so confusing to me when all the Raptors started appearing with a pattern on their back. Patternless would lead one to believe there is NO pattern at all, otherwise I would think it to be called a reduced-pattern.
At least now I have a little better understanding of RERS.

 

[godzillizard]

the "patternless" trait in the (R)APTOR morph is technically not patternless--the tails always have some pattern. It's believed that this patternless appearance is the result of reverse stripe and stripe being expressed in the same gecko. It's the most extreme form of jungle/stripe/reverse stripe that creates this look, so "super stripe" would've been a more accurate name for the "patternless stripes". Regardless, they produce incredible variation that will always keep things very interesting

There are so many traits that make up the (R)APTOR, and they don't all behave like simple recessives. The albino gene does, and the reverse stripe gene does, but the rest of the components that create a RAPTOR have to be selectively bred for. So technically, there is no such thing as a "het" for Raptor--we just call them that to illustrate that they had at least one red eyed parent.

Gorgeous girl by the way! cool head markings, and I LOVE snake eyes Brian G