Hello all, I really hope y'all allow my post to exclude the correct structure, I had wrote this out at another place before I realized that place was dead. I think the extra details could help as well.
- I own two Leos, Grey & Yellow. Yellow is having the problem.
Grey
I got Grey first and hooked him up with a 4 foot "long" tank. Got him from ++++++++, very active and curious as soon as he set foot. A while back my nephew did something foolish when no one was around and I found his tail off. That led to him being very depressed, it was hard to watch. He wouldn't eat for the longest, and lost a lot of weight but not at a dangerous level and he would maybe eat on a very rare occasion, I can't remember too well. Anyway, he came back around and got fatter & healthier than ever, he is chilling right now! I was very happy
On to Yellow.
I got her (I'm pretty sure its a her) maybe a month after Grey as I felt that cage was too big just for one guy but I was also given by a friend another regular small terrarium, pretty sure it's a 10 gallon. So I put her in the small tank and I was very excited because she ate immediately. The only issue was I accidentally got large crickets which I feel was too big, I had only gave her one though. She wouldn't touch a cricket after that though. She ate some wax worms and meal worms but very sparingly, I've dabbled baby food on her lips and such, tried "dried leo food", nothing really has her interested.
I had put Grey's tank side by side to see how they would act seeing each other and I kept it like that for a few days, they were fine, she became disinterested pretty quickly though but doing this is actually what got Grey eating again. I eventually moved them in together and they were fine, up until Grey got arrogant again and wouldn't let her come out her hide. He snapped at her (no damage) and I immediately put HIM into the small tank as punishment (in my eyes at least, lol). I had figured she would perk up some being around another but it didn't work.
- She has lost a lot of weight, and it is at the problem stage now (imo, more likely way past that point). We are taking her to the vet Monday. I'm just wondering if anyone would have some ideas what we would most likely find out. I'll try to answer questions that someone might ask
- She is in the small tank right now, I've tried a lot of stuff to make her feel less vulnerable and hardly any stuff to make her feel less crowded. I kind of think she likes the smaller tank but I'm just guessing and have no proof. It also helps with feeding
- The UTH on that tank is way too small but I am getting the right size one today hopefully. The current one is only big enough for her moist hide which she loves. It does warm her moist hide up real nice but I'm not sure if it is enough belly heat. She did have a super-sized UTH when I had her in the big tank for a while but it was still the same behavior. I also turn on the large heat lamp that I keep on the same side of her moist hide w/ UTH. When I do this, she'll come out because I guess it gets to hot in there for her. The actual heat gets up there pretty good in the 90s with the light on. I can't really create much of a gradient(?) with that small of a tank though.
- Her substrate is 3 quarters regular tile and 2 paper towels that take up the whole tank (tuck em' underneath the tile) including covering the other quarter.
- Humidity drops down to about 20% with that light on, (not sure without, it has gotten dry in my house lately). I had just noticed this last night and added some wet spagnum moss underneath the tiles\paper towels. I'm running tests right now to see how they affect humidity, so far I got 70% with a top (too much I know, was very temporary), 40% without a top & no light, and I'm not sure how it does with a light yet, I'm sure it will drop some but hopefully stay between 30-40%.
- No light temps = 72-80, fluctuates because she is a corner area where I can turn the heater vent into which raises the heat.
- Regular white calcium (I don't know if she touches it while I'm sleeping but it doesn't look like it)
- Cool side moist hide that she usually heads directly to from the warm moist hide once I turn the light on.
- Of course daily water change.
- Regular rock hide with reptile carpet, I cut perfectly to the shape of it.
A couple weeks ago I threw a medium sized cricket in there and she took eye of it and rattled her tail, I got very happy! I threw another in there, she took that one, and another, she wouldn't eat the 4th though. I told myself I would wait 2 days before I try again to really let her build her appetite up. The next feeding she ate about 2-3. She skipped the following feeding after that, probably ate a total of 2 crickets since then. She is very weak it seems. She can't catch crickets for crap now even when she tries, she'll give it a good attempt and act satisfied until I spook the cricket to cross her path again. I do bang the cricket up a little if she can't catch it to make it easier. She eats real slow like maybe she has weak jaw bones.
Not enough calcium maybe? I always dust the crap out of the crickets with "Repashy Leo Calcium Plus" but of course if she isn't eating them then.... She does go to the bathroom, her craps are very small though unless of course she has eaten a lot. I suppose it could be signs of impaction but I always just felt like it was a disinterest in everything I offered because she would eat so periodically. I think she ate a few waxies a while back when I first got some but that ended quickly, the same thing with meal-worms, and now crickets again... We did a little bit of hand feeding with some special stuff from the pet store last night, basically just letting it sit on the lips and she lick it off...
I apologize again this is very long. The worst part is I feel like I left out something very important, lol! I'm already expecting a lot of take her to the vet responses. Will do on Monday! Any conclusions\opinions about what the problem most likely is? Thanks!
- I own two Leos, Grey & Yellow. Yellow is having the problem.
Grey
I got Grey first and hooked him up with a 4 foot "long" tank. Got him from ++++++++, very active and curious as soon as he set foot. A while back my nephew did something foolish when no one was around and I found his tail off. That led to him being very depressed, it was hard to watch. He wouldn't eat for the longest, and lost a lot of weight but not at a dangerous level and he would maybe eat on a very rare occasion, I can't remember too well. Anyway, he came back around and got fatter & healthier than ever, he is chilling right now! I was very happy
On to Yellow.
I got her (I'm pretty sure its a her) maybe a month after Grey as I felt that cage was too big just for one guy but I was also given by a friend another regular small terrarium, pretty sure it's a 10 gallon. So I put her in the small tank and I was very excited because she ate immediately. The only issue was I accidentally got large crickets which I feel was too big, I had only gave her one though. She wouldn't touch a cricket after that though. She ate some wax worms and meal worms but very sparingly, I've dabbled baby food on her lips and such, tried "dried leo food", nothing really has her interested.
I had put Grey's tank side by side to see how they would act seeing each other and I kept it like that for a few days, they were fine, she became disinterested pretty quickly though but doing this is actually what got Grey eating again. I eventually moved them in together and they were fine, up until Grey got arrogant again and wouldn't let her come out her hide. He snapped at her (no damage) and I immediately put HIM into the small tank as punishment (in my eyes at least, lol). I had figured she would perk up some being around another but it didn't work.
- She has lost a lot of weight, and it is at the problem stage now (imo, more likely way past that point). We are taking her to the vet Monday. I'm just wondering if anyone would have some ideas what we would most likely find out. I'll try to answer questions that someone might ask
- She is in the small tank right now, I've tried a lot of stuff to make her feel less vulnerable and hardly any stuff to make her feel less crowded. I kind of think she likes the smaller tank but I'm just guessing and have no proof. It also helps with feeding
- The UTH on that tank is way too small but I am getting the right size one today hopefully. The current one is only big enough for her moist hide which she loves. It does warm her moist hide up real nice but I'm not sure if it is enough belly heat. She did have a super-sized UTH when I had her in the big tank for a while but it was still the same behavior. I also turn on the large heat lamp that I keep on the same side of her moist hide w/ UTH. When I do this, she'll come out because I guess it gets to hot in there for her. The actual heat gets up there pretty good in the 90s with the light on. I can't really create much of a gradient(?) with that small of a tank though.
- Her substrate is 3 quarters regular tile and 2 paper towels that take up the whole tank (tuck em' underneath the tile) including covering the other quarter.
- Humidity drops down to about 20% with that light on, (not sure without, it has gotten dry in my house lately). I had just noticed this last night and added some wet spagnum moss underneath the tiles\paper towels. I'm running tests right now to see how they affect humidity, so far I got 70% with a top (too much I know, was very temporary), 40% without a top & no light, and I'm not sure how it does with a light yet, I'm sure it will drop some but hopefully stay between 30-40%.
- No light temps = 72-80, fluctuates because she is a corner area where I can turn the heater vent into which raises the heat.
- Regular white calcium (I don't know if she touches it while I'm sleeping but it doesn't look like it)
- Cool side moist hide that she usually heads directly to from the warm moist hide once I turn the light on.
- Of course daily water change.
- Regular rock hide with reptile carpet, I cut perfectly to the shape of it.
A couple weeks ago I threw a medium sized cricket in there and she took eye of it and rattled her tail, I got very happy! I threw another in there, she took that one, and another, she wouldn't eat the 4th though. I told myself I would wait 2 days before I try again to really let her build her appetite up. The next feeding she ate about 2-3. She skipped the following feeding after that, probably ate a total of 2 crickets since then. She is very weak it seems. She can't catch crickets for crap now even when she tries, she'll give it a good attempt and act satisfied until I spook the cricket to cross her path again. I do bang the cricket up a little if she can't catch it to make it easier. She eats real slow like maybe she has weak jaw bones.
Not enough calcium maybe? I always dust the crap out of the crickets with "Repashy Leo Calcium Plus" but of course if she isn't eating them then.... She does go to the bathroom, her craps are very small though unless of course she has eaten a lot. I suppose it could be signs of impaction but I always just felt like it was a disinterest in everything I offered because she would eat so periodically. I think she ate a few waxies a while back when I first got some but that ended quickly, the same thing with meal-worms, and now crickets again... We did a little bit of hand feeding with some special stuff from the pet store last night, basically just letting it sit on the lips and she lick it off...
I apologize again this is very long. The worst part is I feel like I left out something very important, lol! I'm already expecting a lot of take her to the vet responses. Will do on Monday! Any conclusions\opinions about what the problem most likely is? Thanks!
