Resisting temptation... FAIL

Alusdra

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I was not going to get any more geckos until my oldest two passed on (which will probably be soonish as they are 16+) and I thought that would be perfect as it would be a few years from now and so I would be able to get a retired breeder Enigma for free or cheap to coo over and stare at.

Then Debbie has to go and be all ethical and post some enigma's with the 'syndrome' for adoption. Free to good home. So here were geckos who were not only my second favorite morph (after normals) but all with a spiffy neurological condition as an added bonus. Really... how could I resist? I don't quite get why some people just shake their heads at me with that sympathetic look in their eye. At least a few of my friends have gotten psyched about the symptoms, too, so I'm not totally alone at least. Only one person got psyched about the morphs, though.

Probably I should have stuck to getting one... or maybe two. But hey, you need a new tank for 1 as much as for 4, right? And I had enough supplies for quarantine cages and plenty of feeders (much to my chagrin). I'm glad I went for it, though. Not only are they totally sweet, but I didn't believe you all when you said that the 'geckos weren't photographing well'. I thought you were exaggerating... but it's totally true. I tried my best, but there is definitely something to be said for natural sunlight and the naked eye. Wow! It's really too bad that they have these problems, but it's pretty obvious it would be irresponsible if not unethical to breed them. The exotics vet gave me some vitamins to try... I think I might go to the neurologist, too, even though he only knows dogs and cats. If nothing else it will be fun to chat possible mechanisms with him.

First is Jet: Mack snow Bell enigma, who I have a question on her eyes- do you think that they have some of the "snake eye" thing going on? :main_huh:

At first I thought that her pupils were malformed, but she can see just fine and depending on the light you can make out a normal looking pupil, but then sometimes it looks smudgy? Since she's a snow I thought maybe it was a trick- maybe it's a partial snake eye? What do you all think?

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And here's Laurel, the voracious Tremper Enigma eating 1 adult male (newly molted) dubia a day! :stunned:
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And her eyes (so pretty!)
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And then Button, Bell enigma
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And Cricket, also Bell enigma (poor tiny kiddo with her spinning! Eating like a champ, though.) :smitten:
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pandress

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The geckos are very cute but I'm curious, what is the 'syndrome'?
 

Mel&Keith

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For some reason Mack Snows Enigmas can have anywhere from normal to completely solid colored eyes. Some of our Snow Bell Enigmas have snake eyes like yours and some have solid red eyes like a Super Snow Bell. They're definitely cool looking!
 

Alusdra

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Good to know that the eye thing is normal. I was a bit worried it was a deformity of the pupils.

All these girls are so super pretty... but they all do have the 'syndrome' too. Jet the least, she only head-bobs, has ataxia and it's more pronounced when she's really excited (like eating). Laurel's problem is mostly a pretty severe head tilt, plus some ataxia, righting problems and her tail if funky (which is probably unrelated). Button tends to freeze in odd posses and throws her head back- also her tail is a bit odd, possibly just from dropping it. Cricket circles and circles (and circles and circles- she ulcerated her foot from spinning and stepping on it), and when she tries to eat she looks like head-banger throwing her head up and down (which is kind of cute, but makes it almost impossible for her to catch food). Button and Cricket try to run away from you by spinning in a tight circle. Which obviously doesn't work that well.

I wanted to get videos of the odd things they do, but in high light all but Laurel tend to squint and hunker down, but in low light where they are more active my camera quality is pretty horrendous.

http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=34649
 

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